Culverson says federal prosecutors have told him LARGE NUMBERS have entered through our southern border and have blended into Texas and changed their names to Spanish surnames.....
He says Federal prosecutors have ID'd terrorist/people friendly to terrorist that have entered and are entering our southern border, changing their names and obtaining Matricular cards
and how do they know this? have they arrested any of these people? how have they "IDed" them, if they snuck across the border?
Jose
Culverson = Culberson, 7th District, Houston, Tx
http://www.culberson.house.gov/
Yes, and didn't he say they're "blending in" as doctors, pharmacists, etc.? I'm listening on the run...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/977567/posts
http://www.azstarnet.com/attack/30907911REPORT.html
Terrorists operated in Tucson
ARIZONA DAILY STAR ^ | September 7, 2003 | Barrett Marson
Posted on 09/07/2003 8:10 AM EDT by sarcasm
A terrorist network operated in Tucson as early as the mid-1980s and provided al-Qaida with early leaders and support, according to a congressional inquiry into the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
The assessment comes from Phoenix-based FBI special agent Kenneth Williams, author of the so-called "Phoenix memo," which revealed that radical Muslim students were taking aviation classes at U.S. schools for terrorist ends.
During testimony to a congressional committee last year, made public in a 900-page report by the committee in July, Williams said his "investigative theory" was that terror suspects lived in Tucson even before the creation of al-Qaida and that they kept returning to the state.
"These people don't continue to come back to Arizona because they like the sunshine or they like the state," Williams testified. "I believe that something was established there and I think it's been there for a long time. We're working very hard to identify that structure."
The House and Senate intelligence committees reviewed thousands of documents and interviewed witnesses to determine whether the intelligence community should have predicted the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
Their report points out several instances where the country's intelligence community gathered critical information but either failed to share it with the appropriate people or did not recognize its value. The report concludes that none of the information identified the exact time and place of the attacks.
With the second anniversary of 9/11 approaching this week, the report describes Arizona as a source of continuing concern because of the network set up by former Tucson resident Wadih El-Hage - believed to have been a personal assistant to al-Quaida leader Osama bin Laden.
Referring to Williams, the report says, "The agent believes that El-Hage established a bin Laden support network in Arizona that is still in place."
Extremists in Old Pueblo
Arizona officials concur that a network remains in place, noting that they launched a multiagency Joint Terrorism Task Force after the attacks.
"I think that that is not possible, but probable," Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said.
Since the mid-'80s or earlier, at least four people with leading roles in terrorism against the United States have called Tucson home.
* Sept. 11 hijacker Hani Hanjour attended the UA in 1991. Hanjour, who is believed to have piloted the American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon, also lived in Mesa and took aviation classes in Scottsdale.
* El-Hage, who was convicted of conspiracy in connection with the 1998 car bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa. In 2001, he was sentenced to life in prison. He lived in Tucson from 1987 to 1992.
* In 1993, Essam Al-Ridi bought a T-39 twin engine Sabreliner ex-Air Force training jet for bin Laden at a Tucson boneyard. Al-Ridi paid about $200,000 for the plane, which was purchased to transport missiles between Pakistan and the Sudan.
* Wa'el Hamza Jelaidan co-founded al-Qaida with bin Laden in the late '80s. State records show he was president of the Islamic Center of Tucson from 1984 to 85. He left Tucson in 1986 and was believed to have gone to Afghanistan to help repel the Soviet Union's invasion.
Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., sits on the Senate Intelligence Committee and was on the joint inquiry. Kyl said while clues were missed, he doesn't believe the intelligence community had the full picture.
Kyl expressed concern, however, that so many al-Qaida operatives lived in Tucson.
"There were questions asked about why we weren't able to infiltrate. Our way of looking at these folks prior to 9/11 was not as refined as it is now," Kyl said.
Dupnik said despite the Tucson connections, he had little knowledge before Sept. 11 of what is now the country's top enemy.
"Prior to 9/11, I was not familiar with the term al-Qaida," Dupnik said. "Local law enforcement did not get involved in foreign intelligence."
The Sheriff's Department now has a member on the Joint Terrorism Task Force.
"Nine/11 caught all law enforcement with their pants down insofar as intelligence," Dupnik said. "We didn't have an intelligence unit that could handle these things. We do now."
Why Tucson
Arizona ties of some people linked with terrorism might be no more than coincidence, in the view of people close to Tucson's Arab community.
Anne Betteridge, director of the UA's Center for Middle Eastern Studies, said the school programs and the area's weather are beacons that bring Arabs to Tucson. There are simply some very fine programs at the university that are attractive to people, Betteridge said. "The climate is another issue that people have brought up."
Betteridge doesn't see Tucson playing a large role in terrorism. However, with Tucson's out-of-the way location and small-town feel, terrorists trying to remain out of sight may have felt safe in Old Pueblo.
"Maybe people feel this is a place a little off the radar for law enforcement," she said.
Dupnik said the 8,000-member Muslim community has not offered help to local lawmen looking to end the suspected support network.
"They don't have much interest in coming forward," he said. "Law enforcement has not received any substantial help from the Islamic community."
Muhammad As'ad, the administrator at the Islamic Center of Tucson, said the close-knit community distrusts outsiders. And, he said, a lack of information coming from Muslims may only mean they have no intelligence to offer.
"It's a culture. They are wary of outsiders," As'ad said. "People are closed-mouth. They have to be."
Phoenix-based FBI spokeswoman Susan Herskovits said the bureau would not comment, citing national security concerns and ongoing investigations. She also said Williams is not making himself available for interviews.
9/11 inquiry
Law enforcement did not keep up with the threat in Arizona or around the country, the congressional report found.
* The government passed on opportunities to prevent at least two of the hijackers from entering the country despite their attendance at a terrorist planning session in Malaysia in early 2000.
* Numerous warnings beginning in 1995 that terrorists wanted to hijack U.S. planes were not acted upon.
* The intelligence community was not well-equipped to counter the rising threat posed by terrorists to the U.S. homeland, the report said. In fact, some FBI field offices throughout the country had "only a passing familiarity with the very existence of Osama bin-Laden and al-Qaida prior to September 11," the report states.
"Until the very end of our term in office, the view we received from the bureau was that al-Qaida had limited capacity to operate in the United States and that any presence here was under surveillance," Sandy Berger, former President Bill Clinton's national security adviser, testified before the committee.
Since the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which has not been directly tied to bin Laden, al-Qaida inflicted serious casualties against Americans.
In 1998, car bombs at two U.S. embassies in East Africa killed 240 people, including 12 Americans. In October 2000, terrorists sidled up against the USS Cole and blew a hole in its side, killing 17 sailors.
Arizona ties
And in Arizona, former residents had ties to three of those four terrorist attacks.
* Hanjour studied English at the UA in the early '90s. He went back to his native Saudi Arabia, later returning to live and train in the Phoenix area.
* El-Hage spent several years in Tucson and eventually settled in the Dallas area where he was arrested and charged with conspiracy in the 1998 Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, embassy bombings. He was convicted and sentenced in 2001 to life in prison.
* Nawaf Al-Hazmi, a Sept. 11 hijacker on the plane that slammed into the Pentagon, lived with Hanjour. He, along with future hijacker Khalid Al-Mihdhar, attended a meeting in January 2000 in Malaysia with a key planner in the Cole bombing.
The congressional report does not disclose what was discussed at the meeting. It was after that meeting when the CIA failed to put Al-Hazmi and Al-Mihdhar on the U.S. State Department watchlist, which would have prohibited the two from entering the country. They came to the United States about a week after the Malaysia meeting.
One person who did make connections was Williams, an FBI agent who works counterterrorism. The Phoenix agent sent an eight-page memo on July 10, 2001, to agents in the Radical Fundamentalist Unit, the bin Laden unit and the New York field office. In the memo, Williams expresses concern that bin Laden was sending students to U.S. aviation schools to learn how to fly and conduct future terror attacks. Only three of the eight people who received the memo read it, according to the report.
He recommended that the FBI seek authority to obtain visa information on individuals with visas attending aviation schools. Only one of the eight people Williams has questions about is identified.
That man, Zakaria Soubra, attended Embry Riddle University in Prescott and was the subject of the memo. The names of the other individuals are blacked out.
Williams testified to the inquiry that his suspicions grew when he observed Soubra driving a car registered to one of two men questioned in 1999 for touching the cockpit door of an America West Airlines plane in Columbus, Ohio.
The two men, one an Arizona State University student, the other Muhammad Al-Qudhai'een, a Tucson resident, were handcuffed and taken off the plane. Al-Qudhai'een was picked up by the FBI in June and held on a material witness warrant. He was recently deported to Saudi Arabia.
At least one of the individuals in the memo was an associate of Hanjour and may have evaluated Hanjour's flying skills before the attacks. The unnamed individual was a flight instructor. Another individual mentioned is also connected to al-Qaida and was arrested in a safehouse in Pakistan last year, the report states.
"Phoenix has observed an inordinate number of individuals of investigative interest who are attending or who have attended civil aviation universities and colleges in the state of Arizona," Williams wrote.
"These individuals will be in a position in the future to conduct terror activity against civil aviation targets."
As'ad said the government has not shown that Tucson or Arizona is home to a radical band of Muslims bent on destroying America.
"To me, it's a coincidence," As'ad said. "I don't see any smoke. I don't see any fire. I see only coincidences."
It's the truth. In fact, in 2002 alone, about 8,000 of the illegals arrested coming across the souther border were “special interest aliens" .......meaning illegals from nations with known ties to terror (Libya, Pakistan, Iran, Syria, etc). And those were just the ones caught. Considering the ratio of the ones that successfully make it across to the ones that don't (around 10 - 1 ....a conservative estimate) , that comes out to around a quarter million illegal Islamists that have made it across the border since 9/11.
Well, in the mid-to-late 90s, I noticed a visible increase in the numbers of towel-headed women (and their western dressed Arab husbands) in and around San Antonio. Made me a bit nervous - and this was long before 9/11.
But how does Omar Muhammed become Jorge Ortiz if he can't speak Spanish? He'd be outed pretty quick by the local patriotic Tejanos.
I agree though that theoretically a lot of trouble could come via the Southern border. But again, their lack of Spanish speaking ability would make them stick out like a sore thumb. And I don't know that the "Coyotes" would be willing to bring Islamofascists into the USA. After all, if they did, and something went BOOM, the US would crack down on the border and that would be bad for their business, wouldnt it?
Hopefully, we're watching these guys morning, noon, and night. Where they go, whom they meet, have already planted bugs on them. The problem is, when to round them up? The election is the monkey in the wrench. We don't want to scare the voters. So it's a balancing act. Plus the ACLU would scream bloody murder if the admin. did anything to infringe on these illegal alien/terrorists' rights. The heck with our right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
But that's no reason for Bush and his followers in Congress to continue to throw open the gates to illegals.