AP Article shows that Bush asked about Vietnam pilot slot. (Kerry's bogus claims refuted-February 8

San Diego Union Tribune ^ | February 8, 2004

[Ace's Dad]

You're right and re: Udell told him he wasn't eligible because he was certified on the F-102, which the military was phasing out. The 102 is an interceptor, and had no role in the conflict.

DTOM

[cyncooper]

Here's another article/thread from February on the issue:

Ex-pilot says Bush put in for Vietnam: Bush volunteered for combat, was rejected...

February 13, 2004

A former senior Virginia Air National Guard commander, who served with George W. Bush in the Texas Air Guard, says Bush volunteered for Vietnam combat service but was turned down because he did not have the required flight experience.

~snip~

[cayuga]

F-102s were in Vietnam. They were there to stop any air attack from North Vietnam. There never was an attack.

[ArmyBratproud]

I contend this article should have been linked on one of those threads"

Hey, I liked your thread on the AP case...but I was not referring to the case as per my reason of this thread.
I posted it to get the info out there to those who have not seen it. I would have posted it on the AP case threads...but I was not talking about those cases....and ..it seems that too many people get ticked off when some one post links from articles to their threads.
I think some are missing the point of why I posted this article.

[cyncooper]

You'll like my link at 42. More for your files.

[ArmyBratproud]

Cool. I had not seen that article. Thanks for posting it.
I'd say post a thread devoted your article...but from what you have said so far....it seems that is the wrong thing to do.

Still, good info that I did no know.

[cyncooper]

That article is a thread that could be bumped. I don't think there was an impression here on FR that GWB had dodged the draft and it seemed to me that most here knew that he had volunteered for Vietnam, hence my puzzlement over bringing it up as if there was confusion here about it.

But no matter. It's handy to have the articles filed away for the dims that DO bring up the story.

[ArmyBratproud]

thanks.
I was thinking about maybe doing one of those yahoo group websites that talk about all the evidence that the media is ignoring on this. Maybe post all the article I could find on it. Give credit to all the people who supply each bit of info.
But Free Republic already covers most of it. Besides, what would I call it....."Bush Served" ?
Not to mention....I would probably get sued by the AP or somebody. HMMMMMMM, maybe that website is not such a bad idea...

[BushisTheMan]

Do your duty then. Send this information to all the RATs that you know and to people that you don't know how they will vote.

I can't wait to send stuff like this to people I can't stand anyway.

Instead of complaining, why don't you:
Send to relatives
Send to friends
Send to enemies
Post on other Web sites.
Send to newspapers

[Ace's Dad]

and, no need to call up the reserves, was my point..

[Willie Green]

Looks like Bush tried to go to Vietnam.
Not that he would not be brave for being assigned elsewhere.
The fact that he would fly an f-102 makes him a braver man than most. Those things were not the most reliable birds.

I see no reason to question his courage.
Perhaps he simply didn't have the aptitude to fly the more sophisticated aircraft that were being used.
He didn't exactly set any records for high academic achievement when he he was in school, ya know.

[ArmyBratproud]

In all fairness.....
Just ranting is doing the duty. It points out the injustice of the info be covered up and not reported.
Voting in November will be the real duty. And I am sure that Nodems has that covered.
I imagine nodems is already sending info to people.....hence taking part on FR.

[Winfield]

I read somewhere that his "Viet Nam service" is going to be the "theme" of the Demo convention. I can hardly wait. (Is there anyone left that is unaware that John Kerry was in Viet Nam with a photographer?)

[line drive to right]

I'm a sportswriter for a major daily newspaper. We usually write the item least important to us at the end of the story, a "throwaway" paragraph that we would like to get in - but one that is not an imperative (or, something we know we should write, but don't especially want to be included in the story. Then, if it's cut for space purposes, and we're asked about it, we can say that we did write it). The writer here saved the paragraph that portrays Bush in a favorable light until the end. It's in an easy spot for a biased copy editor to cut for a number of reasons he could devise, or for an objective editor to cut for space reasons.

[Winfield]

I read somewhere that his "Viet Nam service" is going to be the "theme" of the Demo convention. I can hardly wait. (Is there anyone left that is unaware that John Kerry was in Viet Nam with a photographer?)

[ArmyBratproud]

I see no reason to question his courage."

That was my point exactly. That's why I mentioned that he was brave no matter where he served. I feel that way about all troops. But I would still like to point out the courage it takes to decide to take off in an f-102.

As far as his aptitude...It seems that it is pretty dang high. I know some if his grades were like the rest of us...but I recall reading that his test scores were pretty high.
I don't suppose anyone knows of any of those articles....

[Samwise]

Here's aonther thread that should be linked.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1081371/posts

[ArmyBratproud]

SPORTSWRITER??????

Oh, your living a lot of folks dream!

So are all the rumors about all the benefits (tickets, game trips, stuff) that sportswriters get true?

So what did you think of the Horns not showing up for their second place trophy at Omaha?!
feel free to privat reply...and let me know where to find your writings (what paper).

[Christian4Bush]

All of these revelations of information for our side, to prove what many of us already know--that President Bush and company are honorable), are like a certain honorable (in proper context) urge which shall not be named in mixed company...

Once experienced, more is wanted. I want more of this stuff. I ESPECIALLY want to see the quote where Dubya said (allegedly long before he ran for POTUS),

"Sitting behind that cockpit, with those afterburners blowing, I didn't feel like I got out of anything..."

Of course, W doesn't need to trumpet this, like Flipper does in every sentence with his Vietnam fortnight. Perhaps that's because...well, W's been hard at work, governing Texas and leading our country. Flurch?....uh, did you know he served in Vietnam?

[Willie Green]

As far as his aptitude...It seems that it is pretty dang high. I know some if his grades were like the rest of us...but I recall reading that his test scores were pretty high.

I don't know...
"Aptitude" ecompasses attitudes that go beyond getting the correct answer on a test.
I've always been led to believe that it was necessary for fighter pilots to be aggressively competitive in order to survive. Dubya doesn't impress me as having that type of personality. He's more laid-back, easy-going, wise-cracking, etc. He just seems to lack the focused intensity to go head-to-head with a Mig. Perhaps it was simply better for everybody if he just did his part in the reserves.