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First Rounds Fired in Conservative 'Ketchup War'
GOPUSA.com ^ | 07/16/04 | Jimmy Moore

Posted on 07/16/2004 6:14:11 AM PDT by spero

SPARTANBURG, SC (Talon News) -- An unexpected ketchup war has erupted between two companies marketing alternative versions of ketchup to conservative, Republican consumers.


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SPARTANBURG, SC (Talon News) -- An unexpected ketchup war has erupted between two companies marketing alternative versions of ketchup to conservative, Republican consumers.

Talon News reported last week on W Ketchup which actively markets its product to people who "don't support Democrats."

But in an open letter, another alternative ketchup known as Bush Country Ketchup (website) has openly challenged W Ketchup to clarify its ideological devotion.

"We can no longer allow W Ketchup (website) to masquerade as a conservative condiment and continue to market itself to our fellow Republicans without answering several troubling questions that have come to light since its emergence in mid-June," remarked Bush Country Ketchup co-founder and volunteer press secretary for a Congressional candidate Patrick Spero, whose slogan is "Making sure Kerry won't ketchup to W."

Spero told Talon News that he was behind a petition drive to keep the controversial CBS mini-series against Ronald Reagan from reaching the air last November during sweeps week. He was also a prominent contributor to www.blogsforbush.com before founding Bush Country Ketchup.

Spero said there are several pieces of "conflicting information" on the W Ketchup web site as well as from W Ketchup founder Bill Zachary that have them "greatly concerned."

For example, Spero points out a quote from a Washington Times article last month where Zachary characterizes his political philosophy as "middle-of-the road" and claims he is "non-partisan."

"The avoidance of any expressions of support for the reelection of President Bush in Zachary's statements to the media or on W's web site spurred Bush Country Ketchup to question W's true loyalties," Spero said.

"Is W Ketchup a conservative or nonpartisan condiment? Are you (Zachary) and all of your investors Republicans? If not, isn't it disingenuous to market to conservatives and imply that you share their views?" inquired Spero.

Taking his criticism of W Ketchup one step further, Spero said Zachary merely mimicked his idea for creating a ketchup for conservatives, which he calls a "copy-ketchup."

Spero told Talon News that "the plot has thickened" with the release by W Ketchup of a radio interview with Zachary quoted as saying investors in the company are "not necessarily Kerry supporters." Spero expressed to Talon News that this is a "rather weak statement coming from a supposedly conservative condiment."

"Something definitely stinks here," commented Bush Country Ketchup co-founder and Republican Congressional staffer Chris Cylke.

While Spero and Cylke have donated money to the Bush reelection campaign as well as other conservative Republicans, they charge that W Ketchup has not.

"[T]hese self-proclaimed wealthy W Ketchup investors have not donated a penny to President Bush," Spero charged to Talon News.

Cylke said W Ketchup is nearly identical to what has been featured on the Bush Country Ketchup web site since April.

"Mr. Zachary and his 'Republican' investors have some serious explaining to do," Cylke added.

Describing W Ketchup as "a nebulous company," Spero said their rival company has more in common with the campaign of Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John F. Kerry (D-MA) than President George W. Bush.

"Our mission is clear -- the reelection of President Bush and the success of the Republican Party," boasted Spero about Bush Country Ketchup. "W Ketchup appears to be trying to have it every which way, engaging in Kerry-esque flip-flopping and capitalizing on conservatives' affectionate use of President Bush's middle initial. At the same time they claim any connection with President Bush or the Republican Party is pure serendipity."

Noting that he is "not in this for money," Spero told Talon News that he is "truly afraid that good conservatives may be taken advantage of by W Ketchup, possible liberals who are enjoying a good laugh at the expense of trusting conservatives."

Questioning W Ketchup's support for Bush, Spero asks why the president is not even mentioned on the company's web site.

"Do you and your investors in fact support President Bush and his reelection?" Spero questioned.

Spero and Cylke, self-proclaimed "unabashed conservatives who fully support President Bush and actively contribute to Republican causes," said they introduced Bush Country Ketchup in April to offer "a gourmet alternative to Heinz ketchup -- the food giant from which Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry's wife Teresa Heinz inherited her enormous wealth."

Noting the many grassroots GOP partnerships that have been formed between their company and local Republican groups, Spero and Cylke said their product has been a "powerful fundraising tool" and is currently being "served in restaurants around the country."

In fact, Spero told Talon News that they have donated their product to Republican groups, often at cost, as a fundraising item and can cite these groups. They assert that W Ketchup does not do this to help Republican causes.

"While we respect W Ketchup's donation to the Freedom Alliance, they donate only 5%, taking 95% of the profit for themselves," Spero explained. "We, on the other hand, regularly donate 15% of our gross to Republican Town Committees that allow us to sell our ketchup in person at their events and discount our ketchup for any Republican group or candidate looking to spread the President's message or raise funds."

However, they contend W Ketchup is "just interested in making a quick buck by saying the right things to the 'right.'"

The Bush Country Ketchup founders concluded about W Ketchup, "We believe your customers and the marketplace deserve an answer to these discrepancies."

Although their ketchup costs a little more than W Ketchup, Spero invites people to "judge for themselves which ketchup is truly conservative and dedicated to the President."

When Talon News spoke with W Ketchup Founder and CEO Daniel Oliver on Thursday about these charges, he said there is little reason to question the political devotion of the investors.

"W Ketchup was started by a group of friends who support the Republican Party and the conservative movement, and we believe that reelecting President Bush is essential to the safety of this great nation," Oliver told Talon News.

Oliver said W Ketchup launched nationwide on June 11 and "the response has been overwhelming," with appearances on ABC's Good Morning America, Fox News, and CNN as well as featured stories in newspapers across the country.

"When we started this venture, we had no idea how many of our initial inventory of 48,000 bottles would sell," Oliver continued. "But we sold out in less than a month, and sales have only increased since then. The support we've received from across the country has been truly gratifying."

Attempting to address the specific charge by Bush Country Ketchup that it did not support Bush or Republicans, Oliver offered the paradoxical answer that he wanted W Ketchup to "be Republican but not partisan, having a positive message all Americans could agree on."

Oliver said Heinz donates 4 percent of their profits to "Teresa Heinz Kerry and her liberal causes" while W Ketchup allocates 5 percent of their profits to the Freedom Alliance Scholarship Fund, which Oliver said is "a cause all Americans should support."

Incidentally, Bush Country Ketchup costs $5.99 per bottle plus shipping compared with W Ketchup which costs $3.00 per bottle with a minimum order of 4 bottles plus shipping.

The purpose of W Ketchup, Oliver explains, is to "take market share from Heinz."

"For too long companies that support or are identified with conservative policies have paid a political and economic price, whereas those supporting liberal causes have had a free ride," Oliver commented to Talon News. "We think our product and advertising campaign can help highlight this double standard."

As for the competition from another alternative ketchup to Heinz, Oliver said he welcomes the challenge because it shows "America at its best."

"Given the huge number of Americans who don't want to support Kerry/Heinz with their condiment selection, the more choices, the better," Oliver stated. "Hopefully with our combined efforts, we can ensure that in November, Teresa Heinz Kerry's G-5, the 'Flying Squirrel,' lands in the People's Republic of Taxachusetts, and not Andrews Air Force Base."

1 posted on 07/16/2004 6:14:13 AM PDT by spero
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To: spero

Thought everyone might enjoy the article. Disclaimer: I am the same Spero quoted in the article.


2 posted on 07/16/2004 6:15:10 AM PDT by spero
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To: spero

but does it (w ketchup) taste good?

we buy hunts instead of heinz


3 posted on 07/16/2004 6:23:01 AM PDT by mamalujo (this space left intentionally blank)
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To: mamalujo

Bush Country Ketchup does, in my opinion. It is gourmet-0grade because conservaives deserve only the very best.

As for W Ketchup, I question their loyalties. The sound more likke wishy-washy libs with continued statements like :
Attempting to address the specific charge by Bush Country Ketchup that it did not support Bush or Republicans, Oliver offered the paradoxical answer that he wanted W Ketchup to "be Republican but not partisan, having a positive message all Americans could agree on."


4 posted on 07/16/2004 6:25:45 AM PDT by spero
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To: spero

I bought two bottles of your ketchup...I like the label so much I've decided to keep them unopened. I love the elephant.


5 posted on 07/16/2004 6:27:51 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: spero

And there's another person on the forum who signed up only to, for several weeks, post a daily thread publicizing his own brand of ketchup.

I had no idea we had turned into QVC.


6 posted on 07/16/2004 6:28:07 AM PDT by AQGeiger (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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To: spero

I also bought one of your aprons...being the neighborhood renowned BBQ chef that I am, I've given that plenty of use.


7 posted on 07/16/2004 6:28:59 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: AQGeiger

You can view my history. I have posted before to FreeRepublic and have been a member for nearly a year. The reason I posted the article is not to publicize my ketchup - that's why I put the discaimer following my post - but to make sure good conservatives aren't duped into buy a charlatan W Ketchup.

We are not in it for money, but for fun. We want to inject some levity into the campaign, but at the same time convey a real political message. W Ketchup does nto and it is clear to us that they are in it only for profit.


8 posted on 07/16/2004 6:31:34 AM PDT by spero
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To: spero

Way beyond silly & crass advertising and self-promotion.


9 posted on 07/16/2004 6:32:16 AM PDT by familyofman (and the first animal is jettisoned - legs furiously pumping)
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To: spero
Take a look at these threads. Surprised? Shouldn't be with F'ing's conduct lately.

Tax Loophole for Heinz Foods
Tax Loophole for Heinz Foods
Tax Loophole for Heinz Foods

10 posted on 07/16/2004 6:32:20 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Flush the john/john rat ticket in 2004. #1 & #4 liberals in Congress.)
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To: spero

Do you have a website that Ican buy this from?


11 posted on 07/16/2004 6:34:13 AM PDT by frithguild ("W" is the Black Ice President - underestimated until the left completely loses traction.)
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To: spero

I have used SALSA (and plenty of it--the hotter the better) rather than ketchup LONG before Kerry married Tersa Heinz, and thus became "Ketchup Boy".


12 posted on 07/16/2004 6:34:16 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Michael Reagan is pro-Serbian, too!!)
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To: spero
I have to tell you that I ordered the "W" Ketchup, and although the delivery was very slow, we finally got it, and it is excellent.

I am going to go and check out yours too (hadn't heard of it before today), and I will let you know how they compare.

Keep up the good work!

13 posted on 07/16/2004 6:36:06 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: spero
We are not in it for money, but for fun. We want to inject some levity into the campaign, but at the same time convey a real political message. W Ketchup does nto and it is clear to us that they are in it only for profit.

I see no problem with this. It would appear that W is a real company that seeks to exist and make a profit after this election cycle. Yours is a political group that sells novelty items. Which is also cool, but any comparison is apples and oranges (tomatoes?).

14 posted on 07/16/2004 6:36:11 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Just thinkin' about women and glasses of beer.)
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To: mamalujo
"we buy hunts instead of heinz

Haven't bought Heinz since learning of the Kerry connection

15 posted on 07/16/2004 6:44:23 AM PDT by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: spero

Not trying to offend anyone, but the day politics determines which ketchup I buy is the day I go into therapy. Haven't tried either of the "Republican" ketchups mentioned here, but always like Heinze much better than Hunt's. That being said, I'd buy a couple bottles of the Republican stuff if only to annoy lib friends at cookouts.


16 posted on 07/16/2004 6:44:25 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: spero; codercpc

I also already ordered "W" and I salute your efforts.

I've been checking with the FReepers that already got their orders delivered, and only one (out of five so far) called it, "Fair." All others loved "W"

I sure love the free market.

**(Just please promise us that you won't make it into odd colors and stuff like they did to Heinz a few years ago)**


17 posted on 07/16/2004 6:47:02 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: spero

We'll have to respectfully disagree. You can say you are not attempting to publicize your product. However, that is what you are implicitly doing by posting an article that is critical of your competitor.


18 posted on 07/16/2004 6:47:23 AM PDT by AQGeiger (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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To: spero
During Kerry's speech at the NAACP he stated he would meet with any group whether they agreed with him or not. This brings up an interesting scenario. What if a group such as Vietnam Vets against John Kerry publicly invited him to speak at their organization? Would he meet with them or is he a hypocrite? It's time for the liberal media to quit pandering to this Chum and ask him the tough questions or if the liberal media can't, allow a group to do it for them.
19 posted on 07/16/2004 6:49:36 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak)
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To: spero

Are there guarantees that neither of these two brands are simply a private label version from Heinz? I'd want to know the source of the product before I chose. For now, it is Hunts or DelMonte.


20 posted on 07/16/2004 6:52:43 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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