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To: Tolik

Do yourself a favor and step out of the cycle. Read books, magazines, and yes internet blogs, etc. which don't play that game. There are many of them out there. Serious people are having serious discusions outside of the ABCCBSCNNNBCNYTWP big media. Talk to your friends about what you see there. Its a small but important start. Just one for instance, I am reading "The Peloponnesian War" by Donald Kagan in preparation for a re-read of Thucydides this summer. This stuff is not on the best seller list and often can be had for free from you library.


13 posted on 07/16/2004 6:48:46 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules.)
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To: RKV
You are preaching to the choir. However, consider the television ratings, which reveal that literally millions of people watch the network news, and for many of them, only the network news, to know what is going on in the world around them.

Have you tried talking to such people? I have. I get blank stares, if not suggestions that I might be a paranoid delusional. If Tom, Petah and Dan say it, then by golly it must be true.

I am embroiled in such a conversation now, via email. I know this is a friend who will probably never speak to me again, but I also know I cannot pretend to agree with her, even slightly. "All we've done is stir up a hornet's nest. Bush is going to get us all killed. Michael Moore is right! This is a quagmire worse than Vietnam!" She believes this.

16 posted on 07/16/2004 7:21:22 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: RKV; Tolik; All
This posted article didn't get very many comments so I assume many people missed it. Excellent but long read:

The Reality of Saddam’s Threat: The U.S. could not have delayed dealing with Saddam Hussein.

24 posted on 07/16/2004 9:35:35 AM PDT by hobson
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