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Something big [and bad] is coming, says CIA director
http://www.iol.co.za ^ | July 15, 04 | http://www.iol.co.za

Posted on 07/15/2004 10:28:27 PM PDT by churchillbuff

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To: jeffers

Re: Your Post # 114 - good practical advice!


141 posted on 07/16/2004 6:01:47 AM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: Happygal
I don't know...look at the "catch-22" our administration has been put in:

1. They are being ceaselessly attacked for not telling people what little they knew before 9/11, no matter how vague or inspecific the information was.

YET...

2. They are being ceaselessly attacked for making these announcements because they are vague or inspecific.

On top of that...

1. They have been ceaselessly attacked for not acting on the info they had prior to 9/11, and for not having more security in effect in light of the information they did have.

2. They are being ceaselessly attacked for "racial profiling", and denying people their "civil liberties" in their efforts to create the security needed to prevent attacks the way they need to in light of the information they currently have.

This nation is full of idiots who want it both ways. They demand protection, but b***h and whine when that protection requires certain measures they feel inconveniences them or invades their liberties.
142 posted on 07/16/2004 6:54:28 AM PDT by singlemomofone
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To: ClancyJ

"You know - it could be that we ARE in different times now. This will be the norm so we will have to get used to it.

You know - Have you ever heard of the story of "The Boy who Cried Wolf?"

"Many of us lived through the cold war nuclear threat and have plenty of practice in living under a threat"

Yeah son, many of us did.


143 posted on 07/16/2004 6:58:24 AM PDT by Kerberos (Convictions are more dangerous enemies of the truth than lies)
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To: fatima

Dear Fatima, If/when I get data, I shall ping you! ...Alia


144 posted on 07/16/2004 6:58:47 AM PDT by Alia
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To: churchillbuff

They are going to set off all 20 of the suitcase nukes at once, right?


145 posted on 07/16/2004 7:04:01 AM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: expatguy
You can't blame Tom Ridge, because there are literally thousands crossing the southern border every night and he can't be expected to know what they are ALL planning. /sarcasm.

Perhaps Tom just feels paranoia at his total deriliction of duty in enforcing the borders against an enemy that only sneak attacks, simply because his political party asks him to keep the cheap labor flowing. Yeah, lotta sleepless nights for Tommy.

146 posted on 07/16/2004 7:06:31 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Recall David Dreier)
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To: Arkinsaw
I doubt we will see an armored column push into Tehran, but the effect will be the same.

Iran is more likely to have a civil war than an external one. The final act for the mullahs will involve a short rope and a long drop at the hands of their own citizenry.

Iran is a strange country. Despite 20+ years of government propaganda calling America "The Great Satan," the Iranian people harbor very little Anti-Americanism.

147 posted on 07/16/2004 7:13:07 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: churchillbuff

I have no doubt that the Islamonazis would like to do something big, but I would like to have a dollar for every thread predicting something big that's been posted since 911.

Whatever became of "The Big Meal"? What about the birds of the air that were going to destroy us?

My personal paranoia revolves around fuel trucks. Individually they are not much, but a coordinated strike with a lot of hazmat thrown in would be very disruptive.

Of course that would require a lot of people to pull off, and the Muslim communities could look forward to a lot of distrust for the next 50 years.


148 posted on 07/16/2004 7:16:35 AM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The money out of SA is not from the official State whereas the Money and directed actions out of Iran are from those who control the State!!!!

The Saudi government could shut off the flow of funds to terrorists tomorrow, if it wanted to.

The Saudi monarchy wants to remain in power, so they have attempted to placate the fundamentalists in the hopes that they will not attempt to overthrow that corrupt monarchy. The Saudis are starting to just figure out that it's one thing to ride a tiger, it's quite another to get off the beast.

149 posted on 07/16/2004 7:16:56 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: churchillbuff

Yes, of course we are safer without Saddam in power. Are we totally safe? No, but it is hard to argue that it would be worse with Saddam in power.


150 posted on 07/16/2004 7:18:16 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: zarf
"I don't even THINK a President Kerry could avoid it (war with Iran)."

No, but a President Kerry could manage to lose it.

151 posted on 07/16/2004 7:18:36 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: churchillbuff
"But citizens themselves need to keep their eyes open and be alert," he said

Unless you're flying on a plane with 14 Syrian musicians who are constantly running to the bathroom and passing things around to each other and winking and nodding and reading the Koran. In that case, just shut up and sit down because we can't do anything about it until the bomb actually goes off. Then we will have proof that a crime has been committed and THEN we can arrest them...

152 posted on 07/16/2004 7:19:51 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Kerberos
You can know that something is up, but not know exactly when or where. They are warning us because if they don't there will be 10,000 senate investigations after the hit.

Something is coming, you don't have to hear it in the "chatter" you can feel it in your gut.

153 posted on 07/16/2004 7:25:45 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Dec31,1999
America will collapse, and we'll be taken over by Islam. I don't know about Minnesota or California, but I promise you that Islam is not going to overrun the Ozarks, or the big thicket in Texas, or the Smokey Mountains.

You got that right. You want to see a future map of Islamic America? Whip out the famous "Red" map of the 2000 election. All the blue spots on the map, the spots that voted for Gore, that's future Islamic land. The Red areas, where Bush carried the day, that will be the last hope of our great Republic. Should our nation fall, and I pray it does not, I know in my heart that those good people out there who represent the fiber of our nation, those same folks will redefine "insurgents". Our nation was born on the backs of men and women who worked as farmers, as cobblers, as bakers; all of whom were willing to fight to the death in the name of freedom. We may indeed see that day return

As for where I live, in Alaska, I can assure you, although we have a fair number of eco-whiners up here, we probably have the most heavily armed population per-capita, and many excellent hunters who can take down a moose from far far away. Any invading army will find itself being sniped at. We will not go down quietly, I can assure you of that.

154 posted on 07/16/2004 7:29:03 AM PDT by boycottliberalhollywood.com (www.boycottliberalhollywood.com - www.twoamericas.us)
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To: Myrddin
BTW, we have found a couple viable nuke weapons already. They were quietly sequestered and disarmed without causing a public panic.

Tell me you have a better source for this than NEIN, who mistook a brushcutter for a radiation detector...

155 posted on 07/16/2004 7:30:44 AM PDT by mikegi
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To: boycottliberalhollywood.com
You got that right. You want to see a future map of Islamic America? Whip out the famous "Red" map of the 2000 election. All the blue spots on the map, the spots that voted for Gore, that's future Islamic land.

Your tin foil hat is on too tight. How, exactly, are the invading Muslim armies going to get here?

156 posted on 07/16/2004 7:37:39 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: boycottliberalhollywood.com
>and many excellent hunters who can take down a moose from far far away

I would never shoot
a moose. Not even a moose
who bit my sister . . .

157 posted on 07/16/2004 7:44:54 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Alia
I think they enjoy spreading the idea that "if the US pulls out (of the mid-east) now, we shall not murder!" But that's not the truth. The terrorists are going to murder anyway.

This is one of those fundamental truths that so many people forget. Anybody who has been bullied in school can tell you that handing over your lunch money today will result in your handing it over tomorrow, too.

And what do we have? A world where in places like Israel, it's a good week if a murder-bomer doesn't strike again. And where the world watches and accuses Israel of being the bully!

That's where I feel our nation's rules of engagement have held back the hand of the warfighter. We collectively have been duped into buying the "Nyah nyah, you can't come here, this is the holy city of..."

You ask me, here are the new rules: We'll try to avoid blowing your mosques off the map, but if some dude therein so much as flips us the bird, let alone raises a fist or shows anything remotely resembling a gun, we'll MOAB that thing right off the map. You want to treat your mosque like a war zone? We'll help you!

Now, this may actually be the way it works, but in order to make this work, we need a missing element, the media. If Donald Rumsfeld were to give a press conference, and announced this new doctrine, and say that CNN and Al Jazeera covered it, which news organizaiton would be more anti-American? It might be a dead heat. I've postulated that the major networks pinch their text straight from Al Jazeera.

Summary? Indeed, giving into terrorism assures future terrorism.

158 posted on 07/16/2004 7:46:05 AM PDT by boycottliberalhollywood.com (www.boycottliberalhollywood.com - www.twoamericas.us)
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To: Alia

People specifically need to STAY on about their business; otherwise, how would they notice what is "amiss" or "out of the ordinary".




Thanks for posting this.


159 posted on 07/16/2004 7:48:40 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Proud Bush-Cheney04 volunteer)
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To: Alia
Interesting.

Have you seen this post yet?

POLICE OFFICERS EXPOSED TO INFECTIOUS, CONTAGIOUS DISEASE IN OHIO

Very similar to what you were saying.

Becki

160 posted on 07/16/2004 7:49:18 AM PDT by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops.)
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