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Terror in the Skies Again (Absolutely Positive MUST-READ)
Womens' Wall Street.com ^ | July 2004 | Annie Jacobsen

Posted on 07/15/2004 6:19:30 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

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To: MineralMan

Did you READ the article?

FOURTEEN MUSLIMS....sharing potty breaks....positioning themselves at key points of the aircraft....


521 posted on 07/15/2004 2:16:39 PM PDT by IGOTMINE ("By God, I pity those poor bastards we're going up against. By God I do.")
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To: IGOTMINE

Wow, this is bad.


522 posted on 07/15/2004 2:18:49 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Rutles4Ever

Veeeerrrrrry interesting article. Bookmarked to later read all these comments...


523 posted on 07/15/2004 2:20:20 PM PDT by shezza
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To: cajungirl

The assembly would necessarily be in the lavatory so that it couldn't be seen. Unless they passed the object from one person to another out side the lavatory, they would have to leave it inside the lavatory for the next person to bring his part of the device, be it gun or explosive or whatever.

Could it be an EMP (electromagnetic pulse) device designed to disrupt the planes controls and cause a crash?


524 posted on 07/15/2004 2:21:56 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

One of my employees, an Air Force reservist, travelling in uniform, on orders, was ubjected to secondary screening. An Arab, directly behind him, was not.


525 posted on 07/15/2004 2:22:38 PM PDT by bruin66 (Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Could it be an EMP (electromagnetic pulse) device designed to disrupt the planes controls and cause a crash?

Much simpler than that: Start a fire, or set off enough of an explosion. That's all it takes. Other posters have already suggested how easy it is. Liquid explosives, by the way, are not detectable by the bomb scanners. Cheddar chesse, on the other hand, sets off the red lights.

526 posted on 07/15/2004 2:25:04 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Don Joe
Well, I can believe the woman's story of the events that happened while in the air, but afterwards? The government told her they cleared these guys post-flight and let them fly two daty later, but do we have proof they did, or are these guys in a special cell right now?

If they have been let go, then you're right. I sure as hell hope not.

Note to others. You don't need to fight to take over the plane. If I had half of the 14 men bring, say 1/3rd of a liter of ammonia each, and the other half bring 1/3 of a liter each of chlorine (say, all in their shaving kits), I could make a WMD that would kill every one on board such a closed-air system that a pressurized cabin of an airplane is. And the 14 men could have gas masks, or parts to make gas masks in their carry-ons.

527 posted on 07/15/2004 2:25:10 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: oceanview

What's really scary is that the second time it happens probably STILL won't change it. Third, maybe? Fourth...?

*shudder*


528 posted on 07/15/2004 2:28:27 PM PDT by whatexit
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To: bruin66
WTF is going on here. WHY are we allowing ANYONE with a Syrian passport into the U.S.?? For ANYTHING???? Much less 14 of them on an airplane! How stupid can our government be? And like the author of the article said, 14 Syrians learning to play instruments is way easier than 8 Arabs learning to flying 767s.

Give me a break! I don't know which has made me angrier today, this article or Bob Novak's column on the liar Joe Wilson. Too many people are either through stupidity or intention helping to facilitate the next attack on the U.S., and it is going to make 9/11 look like child's play.

529 posted on 07/15/2004 2:30:41 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Proud to be a Reagan Alumna!)
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To: gitmo
According to the article, a lot of the suspicious activities took place with the seatbelt sign on.

Good call. I didn't think you were allowed to either use the bathroom, much less form a line for it, when the seatbelt sign was on. Apparently that's not the case.

530 posted on 07/15/2004 2:34:48 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (Socialist America - diseased and dysfunctional.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
The fact that the men all went to the lavatory at the same time may be related to the fact that observant Muslims perform 'Wudu' (ablutions, ritual washing) before praying, and they are required to pray at certain defined times. This would also account for the little red book one man glanced at and the fact that the previously pleasant man didn't smile back when he was waiting for the lavatory. The fact that these people took their valuables with them to the lavatory or carried a McDonalds bag means nothing.

I have had an opportunity to see the other side of racial profiling. My grown son looks somewhat "Middle Eastern". He is part Hawaiian and has a heavy beard. When he travels alone he frequently is pulled aside for the full treatment, (pat downs, shoe removal, etc.). When he travels with me this doesn't happen. A person in his Bible study group told him that he "looks like a terrorist".

That said, I would have been at least observant on this flight, but even supposing something had happened, it sounds like one of the greatest problems to deal with would have been all the people having panic attacks.

531 posted on 07/15/2004 2:36:56 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Rutles4Ever
This is my previous story. I thought I had posted a lot more detail but I hadn't.
532 posted on 07/15/2004 2:39:01 PM PDT by Frapster (Not with the wisdom of man's words but through the demonstration of power.)
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To: lupie
Psalm 91 will be my prayer for you:

Thanks for the kind thoughts, but don't be so quick to say that Psalm. It's the one we usually say at funerals. :(

Tefillat Haderech ("The Traveller's Prayer) would be more appropriate.

PRAYER FOR TRAVELERS

This prayer is to be said, standing if possible, outside the city on the first day of one’s journey (or sitting in one’s seat as the aircraft lifts off the runway). On subsequent days of the journey until reaching home again, whether on the road or at a hotel, the prayer should be recited every morning, but should be concluded thus:
Blessed are You who hears prayer.

May it be Your will, Lord our God and God of our fathers,
to lead us in peace and direct our steps in peace; to guide us in peace, to support us in peace,
and to bring us to our destination in life, joy, and peace.
Deliver us from the hands of every enemy and lurking foe,
from robbers and wild beasts on the journey,
and from all kinds of calamities that may come and afflict the world;
and bestow blessing upon all our actions.
Grant me grace, kindness, and mercy in Your eyes
and in the eyes of all who behold us,
and bestow bountiful kindness upon us.
Hear the voice of our prayer,
for You hear everyone’s prayer.

Blessed are You, Lord, who listens to prayer!

533 posted on 07/15/2004 2:39:32 PM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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To: searchandrecovery

The point is because of the ACLU lawsuits against Northwest Airlines for discrimination against ragheads, the flight crew was afraid of telling the terror operatives to sit down and stop acting suspicious for fear of being sued by the ACLU, CAIR, etc. So they just let the Syrians take over the airplane unchallenged. The ACLU is going to be responsible for the deaths of many more Americans and they'll take the side of the ragheads.


534 posted on 07/15/2004 2:39:54 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Tamsey

Thanks for the ping.This is an eye opener.


535 posted on 07/15/2004 2:43:34 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Rutles4Ever

Un-freaking-real! The day after the next 9-11 we can all be proud to know that the airlines and gummint didn't discriminate against the airborne jihadis, just like on 9-11-2001.


536 posted on 07/15/2004 2:44:39 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: pete anderson
And you have no problem with flight attendants outing Air Marshals to the passengers?

If everyone on the flight was as spooked as the writer implies, then the FA made a judgment call that calming passenger panic was the overriding concern. That said, who is to say that the FA wasn't talking to the Caucasian ring leader. Very bad form on her part, but she was probably shaken to the core.

537 posted on 07/15/2004 2:45:25 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: jimbo123
Anybody want to take bets that my son (and maybe also myself) will be taken aside for "special" profiling while the Muslim passengers just get waved on through.
538 posted on 07/15/2004 2:46:24 PM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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To: cripplecreek

I don't know. Take 14 young strong middle eastern men and have them clog up the aisle in front of the cockpit. Two of the men could go to the cockpit and the remaining me could act as buffers for anyone who did fight. They could use the plane as a missle again. The only real line of defense would be air marchals and the pilots. I'm sure the pilots would crash the plane rather than have it used as a missle. BTW, I wouldn't put much faith in the best effort of a liberal to fight off anyone. It isn't in their nature.


539 posted on 07/15/2004 2:46:44 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace (I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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To: wideminded

Why did these Syrians bring their cell phones and cameras with them into the bathroom to perform WuDu? Is that a Muslim ritual, too?


540 posted on 07/15/2004 2:50:03 PM PDT by jimbo123
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