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Is a constitutional amendment needed to protect the institution of marriage?
Insight ^ | July 14, 2004 | Richard G. Wilkins and Monte Stewart

Posted on 07/14/2004 1:42:44 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Tailgunner Joe
Is a constitutional amendment needed to protect the institution of marriage?

Yes, unless you can get those black robed people to quit legislating from the benches.

21 posted on 07/14/2004 2:11:26 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Flush the john/john rat ticket in 2004. #1 & #4 liberals in Congress.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Let the amendment stand or fall on the weight of support of the people.

We are supposed to have a government by "The Consent of the Governed". The amendment process is one that allows the governed to have a voice.

Vote on it, up or down, but let the people decide.

We don't need either the tyrany of the judicial or leftist elitism preventing the people from speaking.


22 posted on 07/14/2004 2:25:05 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED ( Kerry/Edwards......Lame-o and Blame-o)
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To: snopercod
The Amendment would not limit the rights of individuals.

By defining marriage as between a man and a woman, no one is discriminated against.

Homosexuals could still get married to a person of the opposite sex just like everyone else could.

Everyone would be treated equally under the law.

23 posted on 07/14/2004 2:40:37 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (You CAN legislate morality.)
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping - An excellently reasoned argument in favor of the Constitutional Amendment to protect marriage. The writer is too negative, though. He starts off by stating that same sex marriage will happen, which I don't buy. I think it can be stopped. If it isn't, then the future is very, very dark.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


24 posted on 07/14/2004 4:29:39 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("You're possibly the most ignorant, belligerent, and loathesome poster on FR currently." - tdadams)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Joe--

Please read my position over [here].

FReegards--

25 posted on 07/14/2004 4:53:04 PM PDT by snopercod (I remember when Gallo Red Mountain wine was $1.59 a gallon.)
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To: taxesareforever
Pandora's box was opened.
I believe Lawrence v Texas ruling will have as great affect on our country as Roe v Wade.

The essence of the ruling is:
YOU CAN'T Legislate Morality!
The Supremes have gone brain dead with the ruling.

With that ruling there is no stopping now.
They said the govt cannot criminalize homosexual acts between consenting adults!
What next? There is absolutely NO limits with that ruling. Polygamy will be back, bestiality etc etc
26 posted on 07/14/2004 5:45:24 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free!)
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Yes: Greater good will result from preserving the sanctity of marriage as the union of one man and one woman.

NO. Sanctity refers to things that are sacred and things that are sacred are about individual faith, religious tradition and practice. NONE of these is the domain of government.

Look at how it is today: You have civil ceremonies. You have church weddings. You have no-fault divorce and states where that isn't possible. You have community property states and those which are not. You have weddings between minors or not depending on the state. You have divorce, the secular dividing up of assets, legal custody and so forth but some religions have their own dissolution procedures. Catholics, for example. Orthodox Jews, I think, for another. More examples of the distinction between *sacred rights* and *legal rights*.

This duality has served us well. We're a free people, with freedom of religious practice, we claim to value the rights of states first before federal interference.

The only thing going on here is fundamentalist religious furvor compelling a vocal minority to toss aside over 200 years of precedent, national convention, and American secular values to serve and sooth everything from well-meaning paranoia to bigotry wrapped in alleged divine cloth.

27 posted on 07/15/2004 1:21:03 AM PDT by newzjunkey (No more Floridas: Can "W" actually win this thing outright?)
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To: missnry

Oh, please! How many unborn children will Lawrence vs. Texas cause to be legally murdered? Roe vs. Wade is in a completely *different* and barbaric category.


28 posted on 07/15/2004 1:24:05 AM PDT by newzjunkey (No more Floridas: Can "W" actually win this thing outright?)
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