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Pete Townshend Says Don't Be 'Fooled' By Michael Moore
MTV.com ^ | July, 04 | MTV

Posted on 07/14/2004 12:42:03 PM PDT by churchillbuff

Pete Townshend wants to make sure his fans won't get fooled by Michael Moore.

The rocker recently posted a letter on his Web site asserting that he is upset with Moore for making false claims about him. "He says — among other things — that I refused to allow him to use my song 'Won't Get Fooled Again' in ['Fahrenheit 9/11'] because I support the war, and that at the last minute I recanted but he turned me down," Townshend wrote.

In the July/August issue of Film Comment, Michael Moore is quoted as saying that the moment following President Bush's final line in the film "demands that we hear [Who frontman] Roger Daltrey scream, 'Won't get fooled again!' " Moore goes on to say that Townshend blocked his use of the classic song because he is "not a fan of Michael Moore's and in fact supports the war and supports Tony Blair and doesn't want the song used in any way that would make Blair look bad."

The Who guitarist explained in his post that he was initially supportive of the war but is now "less sure we did the right thing."

Townshend wrote that when he was approached about lending his song to the film, he knew nothing of the content of "Fahrenheit 9/11," but that his publisher informed him that Moore had already been turned down because Miramax's offer was "well below what the song normally commands for use in a movie." Townshend said he did not ask for more money.

According to Townshend, Miramax co-founder Harvey Weinstein became personally involved in explaining the film's content to Townshend's manager, Bill Curbishley, and offered to raise his offer "substantially" for the song's use. Townshend told his manager that he had "not really been convinced" by Moore's last documentary, "Bowling for Columbine," and saw it as "a bullying film."

The musician said he felt "Won't Get Fooled Again," "not an unconditionally anti-war song," was not right for the film, and that he suggested to his publisher and manager that Moore approach Neil Young, whose catalog, he felt, included more appropriate tracks.

In his interview with Film Comment, Moore presented a different take on how the Young track "Rockin' in the Free World" was chosen. Moore said he heard it on the radio while driving through Michigan, felt it was perfect for the film and "called up Neil Young and he said, 'Whatever you need. Absolutely. It's yours.' "

The filmmaker further added that "once we started playing it in the movie, we quickly forgot about the Who. In fact, after Cannes, we got a call from their manager, who said they might be willing to reconsider. And I said, 'No, uh-uh. That's bad karma. This is Neil Young's moment.' "

Townshend asserted in his post that he has nothing against Moore personally but resents being "slurred" by him in interviews "just because he didn't get what he wanted from me. It seems to me that this aspect of his nature is not unlike that of the powerful and willful man at the center of his new documentary.

"I wish him all the best with the movie, which I know is popular, and which I still haven't seen," Townshend continued. "But he'll have to work very, very hard to convince me that a man with a camera is going to change the world more effectively than a man with a guitar."

In response to Townshend's comments, Moore released a statement Tuesday (July 13) in which he suggested that some of Townshend's ire stems from Moore turning down a request to make a movie about the Who.

"Last year," he said in the statement, "the Who asked me to do a documentary on their career. I was sorry I had to tell them that due to my need to finish 'Fahrenheit 9/11' I would not be able to make their film for them. ... I am sorry I wasn't able to do the Who documentary like they wanted me to, but this is certainly no way for Pete to show his anger, and frankly it is very embarrassing for him to behave in this manner, as he is the greatest rock star who ever lived."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: fahrenheit911; fatslob; townshend
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1 posted on 07/14/2004 12:42:04 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
Moore goes on to say that Townshend blocked his use of the classic song because he is "not a fan of Michael Moore's and in fact supports the war and supports Tony Blair and doesn't want the song used in any way that would make Blair look bad."

Liar Liar...

2 posted on 07/14/2004 12:46:04 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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bump


3 posted on 07/14/2004 12:46:44 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: joesnuffy
Liar Liar...

I think that was Three Dog Night.

4 posted on 07/14/2004 12:47:34 PM PDT by GSWarrior (This tagline conveys the heart and soul of America)
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To: churchillbuff
The line "Who the f_ _ k are you?" belted out in Daltrey's voice (from Who Are You?) might be the appropriate response to Mr. Moore's attempts to foment controversy with another artist. Come to think of it, Fiddle About seems more in the territory of a Michael Moore anthem.
5 posted on 07/14/2004 12:49:43 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: churchillbuff
Townshend asserted in his post that he has nothing against Moore personally but resents being "slurred" by him in interviews "just because he didn't get what he wanted from me.

Gosh, who would have thought that Moore would say bad things wbout someone, just because they disagreed?

6 posted on 07/14/2004 12:49:48 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ('We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good ' - Hillary Marx)
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To: GSWarrior

Rollins Band and the Castaways too...


7 posted on 07/14/2004 12:51:43 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: churchillbuff

are we gonna see Moore appear somewhere with the letters F.U.P.T. on his shirt now??? ;P


8 posted on 07/14/2004 12:53:20 PM PDT by beansox
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To: churchillbuff
"Last year," he said in the statement, "the Who asked me to do a documentary on their career. I was sorry I had to tell them that due to my need to finish 'Fahrenheit 9/11' I would not be able to make their film for them. ... I am sorry I wasn't able to do the Who documentary like they wanted me to, but this is certainly no way for Pete to show his anger, and frankly it is very embarrassing for him to behave in this manner, as he is the greatest rock star who ever lived."


Once again I really begin wonder about the blobs ability to tell the truth...

1st: Why would the WHO/Pete Townsend what an American (I use that term very loosely with moore)political fiction filmmaker to make a story of the who.

2nd: Why would more actually want to make a factual documentary when he has so much experience at creating his own.

3rd: Why would Townsend be mad just because moore turned him down I know that there are several legitimate rock documentarians that would love to do a story on the Who for free no less...

Once again I think jabba the liar has gotten caught in a lie again.
9 posted on 07/14/2004 12:54:06 PM PDT by Americanwolf (John Kerry and John Edwards.... We're Socialist..... We want your money..oh and we have better hair.)
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To: churchillbuff

And what would be the point of a Who documentary when "The Kids Are Alright" is already the definitive Who movie?

Long Live Rock!


10 posted on 07/14/2004 12:54:17 PM PDT by gymbeau (Alberta. Bound. But never gagged!)
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To: Americanwolf
1st: Why would the WHO/Pete Townsend what an American


What=want


DO'H
11 posted on 07/14/2004 12:56:05 PM PDT by Americanwolf (John Kerry and John Edwards.... We're Socialist..... We want your money..oh and we have better hair.)
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To: gymbeau
And what would be the point of a Who documentary when "The Kids Are Alright" is already the definitive Who movie?
My 14-year-old son has become a Who fan (he's hoarding all my CDs in his room) and was just watching this yesterday from a showing I taped off the Independent Film Channel.

Long Live Rock!
I need it every night!
12 posted on 07/14/2004 1:00:10 PM PDT by drjimmy
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To: churchillbuff

Bump.


13 posted on 07/14/2004 1:07:19 PM PDT by Rocko
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To: churchillbuff

wasn't townsend arrested on child porn charges last year?

i just got the original "tommy" re-mastered in 5.1 surround sound. It's worth a listen.


14 posted on 07/14/2004 1:09:31 PM PDT by mastequilla
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The audio quality on the 5.1 is terrific, but I wish Pete hadn't messed with the mix. I prefer the stereo mix, but it wasn't done from the original source tapes, just the original stereo master, and it doesn't sound as good.

There's just no pleasing some people!

BTW, I just bought Elton John's Goodbye Yellow Brick Road on DVD-A and its 5.1 mix is spectacular when compared with the original CD.

Cheers
Jim


15 posted on 07/14/2004 1:13:56 PM PDT by gymbeau (Alberta. Bound. But never gagged!)
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To: drjimmy

I've been a diehard Whoey (and isn't that a lot of hooey!) since about 1970 and my kids, now grown, got it by osmosis.

Love your handle, Mr. Jim.

I can't wait for a 5.1 reissue of Quadrophenia!

Cheers
Jim


16 posted on 07/14/2004 1:15:28 PM PDT by gymbeau (Alberta. Bound. But never gagged!)
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To: churchillbuff

Michael Moore is the face and beliefs of all democrats.I never realized being a traitor and giving aid and comfort to the enemy was protected free speech?


17 posted on 07/14/2004 1:15:37 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: drjimmy

My 18-year-old got into my old LP's a few years ago and became a fan of the Who, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, Cream, and so on. He just couldn't believe ol' dad listened to cool music like that. He plays drums now and I think there may be a Keith Moon influence in his style. Or maybe I'd just like there to be.


18 posted on 07/14/2004 1:26:38 PM PDT by beelzepug
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To: gymbeau
"Who's Next" was one of the first albums I bought--I got it from the Columbia House record club along with Three Dog Night's "Suitable for Framing," Bob Dylan's "Greatest Hits Volume II," and Creedence Clearwater Revival's "Pendulum."

Sadly, I never saw them live with Moon, but I made it to shows in 1980 and 1982. My interest was renewed when I learned they were taking "Quadrophenia" on the road, which I saw them perform in 1996 and 1997. My 14-year-old, who has Asperger's Syndrome (an autistic spectrum disorder), started paying attention to the story in "Tommy" a few months ago because he can relate just a little bit, and now he's hooked on all things Who.
19 posted on 07/14/2004 1:38:52 PM PDT by drjimmy
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To: churchillbuff
Ya know, Moore should see someone for his knee-jerk lying.

He's deranged, just like most liberals.

20 posted on 07/14/2004 1:41:59 PM PDT by Benrand
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