[Bob J]

I understand. This vote was a no go from the start as every dem would line up against it. My point was the GOP held it's entire body together on this vote, with the exception of a couple perennial line jumpers.

Calls to replace the party ring hollow and sound like the same garbage the 3rd parties trot out every time the GOP loses a vote.

My suggestion to these people is to spend your energies educating conservatives on what your parties stand for instead of the crocodile tears you shed and baton you wield bashing the GOP over the head. You're not making many converts that way.

But hey, if you'd rather rant and scream than do something effective, knock yourself out.

[plain talk]

good post. dittos!