Posted on 07/14/2004 7:46:19 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
Most people go to banks and a few withdraw without having an account. These few are usually caught and punished, and no one suggests closing all banks as a solution to the problem. Well, OK, some people would, but I dismiss the neurotic.
Another solution not getting much play is burqas. Yes, burqas. Granted, the controlling twits might consider them sexually provocative, but most normal people don't. That's my solution of choice. Burqas for everyone!
"If I saw my little dog had been hurt by a perverted reader of pornography, or my little nephews hurt, or my daughter hurt by a porno worshiping person, I think I'd be willing to do something to fight that perversion whether it became a problem for me or not."
So you would waste your time fighting a legal activity instead of protecting your little dog, nephew or daughter from evil individuals? Nice of you to openly state your priorities!
Blaming the actions of an evil individual on porn is exactly the same as blaming a gun for the action of a shooter. Best to ban guns instead of attacking the evil people committing violent crimes with guns.
As close as I ever got... prefer the real stuff, is the point I was trying to make.
What are you talking about?
No.
As to the great hall of man-made gods, they did not survive the trip from Europe. Recently, these hollow gods have found new devotees in the United States, but like any other fad their luster soon fades and the curious move on to something new. How many Greeks or Italians still worship the gods of mythology? And after 2000 years, how many still worship the only begotten Son of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?
Judaism can trace its lineage back to Man's beginning, and after nearly 6000 years of recorded history orthodox followers still bow to the One God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
I'm pointing out the absurdity of your assumption that porn producers would go from making a lower margin, high volume, legal product to making a higher margin, very low volume, illegal product.
I disagree. The base rock is morals and religion.
"We have no government armed in power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."
-- John Adams,Oct. 11, 1798; Address to the military
Let's make it legal to steal your property. You, of couse, have the right to defend it by any legal means necessary. But we get to keep it if we take it.
You want to live that way? Is that your priority?
I don't know that they would necessarily stop producing adult bookstore-type porn if it were available at 7-11 for $14.95 -- someone will be making it.
I'm saying that the overall amount of illegal "kiddie porn" will increase as the current level of hardcore porn becomes mainstream, probably using 16 and 17-year-olds.
You disagree? You think this will stay the same? Fine.
I've got history on my side.
Yet you don't say what the currently illegal porn you are talking about is, or give a reason why they would switch from a newely legal porn to an illegal porn.
Why would they?
I was thinking more of distribution than production. What I call "illegal" you would call "selling outside of regulated channels".
The remainder of my opinion is in my post #691.
Nice circular logic. There is no intellectual honesty when you compare making a current legal activity between consenting adults with a current illegal activity causing harm to a non consenting adult.
But, then you knew that already.
What would the method of distribution/sale have to do with the content of what is being sold, particularly kiddie porn?
Exactly my point. Bawney Fwank is one of the many influential perverts working on this. If the legal age for consensual sex is lowered you can expect the legal age for participation in porn to be lowered. My point is that vice, in and of itself, seeks the slippery slope. Without regulation, it becomes like Amsterdam. Some people have no problem with this, others do. And so we all push for the principles we embrace.
No, that's not what you said. You said
it is my contention that these producers of previously illegal porn will switch to kiddie porn (#160)
I contend that as more porn becomes legal, more porn producers are switching to kiddie porn. (#181)
Now you are conceding that "porn is legal but not mainstream".
So which is it?
LOL...very funny.
Yes, there was. And unless someone has written a book or article on it, you'll have to take my word for it.
There is no federal age of consent law. It varies from state to state. Some as low as 12, other at 18. Some even have a seperate clause that if one party has reached the age of consent, the other can not exceed that persons age by more than X years.
And the age of consent should NEVER become a federal issue.
I knew that would be your argument, yes. I knew you would totally miss the point, yes.
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