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The Pornography Plague
Leadership U ^ | Kerby Anderson

Posted on 07/14/2004 7:46:19 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Long Cut
However, we are in a situation right now where this false form of conservatism must be countered, vigourously, because it has the effect of driving away voters that might support REAL conservatism, because it plays into the hands of those who denounce us all as "religious nuts" who ALL want to impose a theocracy on America.

*** DING DING DING *** No more calls; we have a winner!

621 posted on 07/14/2004 5:09:46 PM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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To: swampfox98
Women, children and animals have a right not to be debased and hurt by some pervert who reads a how to article. The rights issue goes both ways

And thats why child porn and beastiality are illegal. And the women who perform in porn are doing so willingly.

622 posted on 07/14/2004 5:10:42 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: tacticalogic
Everyone wants things, it's what they're willing to do to get them that gets to be problematic.

If I saw my little dog had been hurt by a perverted reader of pornography, or my little nephews hurt, or my daughter hurt by a porno worshiping person, I think I'd be willing to do something to fight that perversion whether it became a problem for me or not.

When the fruits of perversion hits close to home, the tolerance factor ends with most people.

623 posted on 07/14/2004 5:12:57 PM PDT by swampfox98 (We are at war! We have been at war since 9/11. How smart do you have to be to understand this?)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

The original photo is far better. My scanner sucks.


624 posted on 07/14/2004 5:14:20 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Phantom Lord
And thats why child porn and beastiality are illegal.

Illegal immigration is illegal, however we have l3 to 25 million illegal immigrants living without fear in our country. Laws don't mean jack crap.

625 posted on 07/14/2004 5:15:53 PM PDT by swampfox98 (We are at war! We have been at war since 9/11. How smart do you have to be to understand this?)
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To: swampfox98
In my heart I want women, children and animals to be protected from being hurt by pornography reading perverts. Those who defend pornography obviously don't care.

How can you honestly contend with a straight face that well over 50 million people who partake in the use of porn don't care about women, children, and animals?

I care a great deal about them. Especially the ones in my family and close friends. Somehow I am able to care about them and look at porn. How is that possible?

626 posted on 07/14/2004 5:16:40 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: steve-b; Tailgunner Joe
And let us not forget that the Senate has had actors who played farmers in movies come and testify about the plight of the family farm.

These people were not farmers, and likely have never been on a working farm in their lives. Yet they brought in to testify because the played a farmer in a movie!

627 posted on 07/14/2004 5:20:20 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Long Cut
How dare you try to interject common sense on this thread?
628 posted on 07/14/2004 5:26:06 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: robertpaulsen

Well of course it was in black & white Robert....

They couldn't do color on clay tablets...

:)


629 posted on 07/14/2004 5:26:24 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: King Prout
10. That is highly debatable (as over 600 posts of heated disagreement makes quite evident

Saddam Hussein had lots of friends too, that didn't make him right, did it? Is that what it all comes down to? Numbers? You want to talk about numbers? How about hearing from some of the millions of victims of pornography all over the world? These victims have faces and voices, they have memories and fears that keep them awake at night. The have low self esteem and some don't care to go on living after being abused. They have rights. The right not to be victims of porn.

Let's be honest: Porn exists because of money - the porn reader's money to be exact.

630 posted on 07/14/2004 5:26:40 PM PDT by swampfox98 (We are at war! We have been at war since 9/11. How smart do you have to be to understand this?)
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To: Phantom Lord

Then you might want to remove it. Some of your libertarian friends might think you're a homo.


631 posted on 07/14/2004 5:26:53 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: swampfox98
I think I'd be willing to do something to fight that perversion whether it became a problem for me or not. When the fruits of perversion hits close to home, the tolerance factor ends with most people.

Fair enough. Zero tolerance invariably comes with unintended consequences, and you are free to ignore them if that is how you see fit to engage the issue. I wouldn't expect a lot of support if you're going to demand that everyone else ignore them and join you on your terms, or be attacked.

632 posted on 07/14/2004 5:28:55 PM PDT by tacticalogic ( Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: Phantom Lord
How is that possible?

Your life is not over yet. Arrogance and believing that man is the measure of all things can and do lead one to bad conclusions sometimes.

633 posted on 07/14/2004 5:32:03 PM PDT by swampfox98 (We are at war! We have been at war since 9/11. How smart do you have to be to understand this?)
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To: tacticalogic
or be attacked.

Giving an opinion is attacking? Gosh, you sound like a Democrat out after Bush.

634 posted on 07/14/2004 5:34:25 PM PDT by swampfox98 (We are at war! We have been at war since 9/11. How smart do you have to be to understand this?)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

I'm glad you find it funny.


635 posted on 07/14/2004 5:34:57 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: swampfox98

your non-sequiturs never end, do they?

first off, let's start with a little fact: no one is a victim of porn.

people are victims of animals, of disasters, of accidents, and - in this application - of people.

wait, what am I doing? I am actually debating you as if I assume you will think about what is stated.
My error, that.
It shall not happen again.


636 posted on 07/14/2004 5:35:32 PM PDT by King Prout (Viggo Bozodozeus is your friend... Viggo Bozodozeus deserves all trust... submit to Viggo Bozodozeus)
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To: swampfox98
Gosh, you sound like a Democrat out after Bush.

I take it that's just your personal opinion, and not to be construed as being of any factual basis.

637 posted on 07/14/2004 5:38:13 PM PDT by tacticalogic ( Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: King Prout
It shall not happen again.

Good. The only reason you're upset is becaue I have put a human face on porn. It's not so much fun then, is it?

638 posted on 07/14/2004 5:38:37 PM PDT by swampfox98 (We are at war! We have been at war since 9/11. How smart do you have to be to understand this?)
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To: tacticalogic

The fact is that when the Democrats beat the crap out of George Bush and he has the gall to reply, they accuse him of being an attack dog. And that is not my personal opinion I've seen it happen a dozen times.


639 posted on 07/14/2004 5:42:08 PM PDT by swampfox98 (We are at war! We have been at war since 9/11. How smart do you have to be to understand this?)
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To: swampfox98

you enjoy porn that makes use of non-humans or headless/faceless humans? and you call US perverts?


640 posted on 07/14/2004 5:42:16 PM PDT by King Prout (Viggo Bozodozeus is your friend... Viggo Bozodozeus deserves all trust... submit to Viggo Bozodozeus)
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