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The Pornography Plague
Leadership U ^ | Kerby Anderson

Posted on 07/14/2004 7:46:19 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Tailgunner Joe

If you're going to give the government the right to ban everything without aesthetic value, it'll be very busy.

I do not advocate giving the government so much power.


441 posted on 07/14/2004 1:38:56 PM PDT by horatio
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To: superiorslots

I don't know if the articles claims are true, but I can tell you your ideas about why they are wrong are not correct. First of all, just because McDonald's outnumber porn stores in your town, does not mean that that is true of the whole country. Second of all, just because you see more McDonald's around, doesn't mean that some unseen stores don't outnumber them. You could live all your life in a town and not see such a store, unless you looked for it, or stumbled on it.


442 posted on 07/14/2004 1:39:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Phantom Lord; horatio
I was really wondering what horatio meant when he said "government". And I wonder if he would accept the will of the people in Alabama.
443 posted on 07/14/2004 1:40:17 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: horatio

Not everything that lacks aethetic value is obscene.


444 posted on 07/14/2004 1:42:10 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (You CAN legislate morality.)
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To: nickcarraway

Regarding the McDonalds vs. Bookstores claim, the article itself states there are 15,000 adult bookstores. For their greater than 3-1 claim to be true there would need to be fewer than 5,000 McDonalds. Thats only 100 McDonalds per state. Outside of several states such as Alaska, Rhode Island, Wyoming, and maybe 2 others I suspect that it is safe to bet that all the others have well in excess of 100 McDonalds. I would venture to say that it is likely that the 5,000 number can be reached east of the Mississippi!


445 posted on 07/14/2004 1:42:53 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: robertpaulsen

I believe in a tightly controlled federal government, and a tightly controlled state and local government.

I would accept the will of the people of the state of Alabama, so long as the people don't try anything consitutional. And so long as the people of Alabama don't try to tell the people of Wisconsin, Oregon, Maine, Texas or New York what they can do.


446 posted on 07/14/2004 1:42:53 PM PDT by horatio
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To: tjwmason
Given that it is an international issue, what we really need are some U.N. Resolutions, perhaps an international law or two.

That would be the next logical step, I suppose. Some want big government, so long as it advances their agenda. Why not globalist nannyism?

Yeah, that's the conservative position. (Not.)

447 posted on 07/14/2004 1:43:50 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: Phantom Lord

"Pleasures" in Decatur and Huntsville, Ala., sell adult movies, greeting cards and marital aids. I'm not sure they qualify as an adult bookstore in that they do not sell books, but they do come close, and they operate legally.


448 posted on 07/14/2004 1:44:41 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: malakhi
IF the pornographer is producing illegal porn. Or if he's distributing it outside of legal channels.

The rest I've already posted twice and explained three times.

449 posted on 07/14/2004 1:44:41 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Still waiting for your post of the laws that make porn illegal, along with the production of, transportation of, transmission of, and possession of.

And how is it that Vivid Video, as pointed out earlier, is traded on NYSE if it is an ILLEGAL business?

450 posted on 07/14/2004 1:45:27 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: robertpaulsen
robertpaulsen wrote:

Probably someone just like you said during prohibition that if we would just legalize alcohol, all the gangs and drive-by shootings would go away.

Guess what paulsen. When the 18th was repealed, all the booze related turf wars did "go away".
Lordy - are you dense.

Did I say "booze related"?

No you wrote -- "if we would just legalize alcohol, all the gangs and drive-by shootings would go away." ---
They did, which proves how double dense you are.

451 posted on 07/14/2004 1:47:02 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Pornography is tearing apart the very fabric of our society

Wow. That's not like overly dramatic or anything. You know, I think people have been wanting to see naked people for a long, long time. The ancient greek urns depict nude acts of hetero and homo sexuality. OH MY GOD, GREECE EVENTUALLY COLLAPSED! THE AUTHOR IS ON TO SOMETHING!!!.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Likewise, pornography doesn't ruin society, people ruin society.

I like looking at attractive naked women. It makes my ding-a-ling tingle. What do you want to do, put me in jail?
452 posted on 07/14/2004 1:47:03 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: horatio

But you only say porn is obscene. Citizens around the country disagree with you.


453 posted on 07/14/2004 1:47:19 PM PDT by horatio
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To: Junior
I wonder how they are selling maritial aides. There was recently a fight about the law in Alabama that makes it illegal to sell vibrators, dildos, etc... and the law was upheld.

Maybe they found some wacky loophole. Example. In Japan, said aides are illegal if they look realistic. So they make them look like animals!

454 posted on 07/14/2004 1:47:27 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Carry_Okie

Exactly


455 posted on 07/14/2004 1:49:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Phantom Lord

There are 30,000 McDs worldwide, can't find how many are domestic, I know when I was a flipper 15 years ago there were 10,000 domestic and 5,000 in the rest of the world. Their growth target is 100 stores a year.


456 posted on 07/14/2004 1:51:31 PM PDT by discostu (Gravity is a harsh mistress)
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To: Phantom Lord

I think the law was overturned on appeal. Regardless, they are selling the items without hassle. I love their ads: it shows a cow puckering up with a speech balloon above its head: "Get in the mooood to smooch."


457 posted on 07/14/2004 1:57:07 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Richard Kimball

You are so funny. The people who fight for legalization of all pornography are the SAME PEOPLE who fight to outlaw the Bible and all other religious thought from public discussion.
123 Richard Kimball

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You are so funny. The people who fight for criminalization of all pornography are the SAME PEOPLE who fight to include Biblical teachings and other religious dogmas into public law.
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many people who defend pornography are the most active in suppressing speech with which they disagree.
-RK-

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Yep. -- Many people who seek to criminalize pornography are the most active in suppressing speech with which they disagree.


458 posted on 07/14/2004 2:03:07 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: Taquito

Shouldn't you be at DU with your other liberal porn-loving cohorts?


459 posted on 07/14/2004 2:03:27 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Yup, druggies and porndogs.


460 posted on 07/14/2004 2:04:27 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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