If you don't believe me, try it yourself.
Posted on 07/14/2004 7:46:19 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
Anarchy in the name of pornography? LOL Rebellion over guns, over slavery, over some serious issue I can understand. I'm not telling men what to do in their lives but I find pornography consumption to be sad.
Now, now. Cyborg's cool. She has strongly held Christian beliefs, but she doesn't call for a theocracy to impose her beliefs on others.
The dangerous psychopath is the person who wants people KILLED because they engage in pornography. And that person is YOU.
Think of it this way:
Jews don't recognize Islam as a religion.
Athiests don't recognize the existence of God.
And baptists don't recognize each other in the liquor and adult book stores.
If it moves, tax it. If it's still moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it.
And Tailgunner Joe wants to move into section 2. Great idea. What comes next?
I would rebel against any government that would try to prevent me from reading or viewing whatever I pleased (kiddie porn being the exception, of course).
For those who haven't seen TJ's posts on porn. He wants those who produce and star in it KILLED and those who consume it jailed.
I've caught TJ's act in the past . Anyone who thinks they know what's in my best interest I usually walk away from .
Theocracy is impossible. The only people attempting this are wahabi muslims and you can see how well THAT works out.
The Department of Porn?
So what are you trying to say? I didn't declare my christianity. I just said I would not marry a man who looks at porn because I find porn disgusting.
"According to Henry Boatwright (Chairman of the U.S. Advisory Board for Social Concerns), approximately 70 percent of the pornographic magazines sold end up in the hands of minors. Women Against Pornography estimate that about 1.2 million children are annually exploited in commercial sex (child pornography and prostitution)."
Now how can they possibly know that? The WAP's ESTIMATE that 1.2 mil kiddies are involved. Based on what?
Specious and unsupported claims like these make me wince.
I am also increasingly leery of terms like "linked", "has ties with or to", "coupled". and any of the myriad words, terms and phrases that indicate they are basicly guessing with very little empiracal data.
And its not just this issue, btw....
In the mean time, a hearty "So what?" from one of the millions who uses porn and does not rape other men, women or small children.
Of course you're right, inquest. Why do we insist that it's EITHER a cause OR a symptom? Perhaps it's BOTH a symptom AND a cause/facilitator/catalyst.
Alcohol abuse, for example, can be both a symptom of a broken life and a causer of a broken life.
Sometimes it's both-and, rather than either-or....
What's the saying? Forced virtue is false virtue.
I'm glad. Nor did I read that into her statements. Tailgunner Joe wants to impose his will on the rest of us, that much is for sure.
But I still wouldn't marry a woman who is that uptight about a little porn.
I agree wholeheartedly.
"I gave up on the few Playboy mags I had at about 17. "
I see this a good bit among the teenage boys my daughters know. A very few get heavily into the internet porn, and those few are derided by the others, while the vast majority look a bit then decide that they would rather spend their time talking to real live girls. Good for them!
Oh man, I always knew that fabric softner bear was really evil.
But hey, lok at the definition: The 1986 Attorney General Commission on Pornography defined pornography as material that "is predominantly sexually explicit and intended primarily for the purpose of sexual arousal."
In other words, if it gives you wood, it's baaad. So so bad, the federal government has to get involved. You could be thinking Bad Thoughts. About naked women. Or, about software that cracks copy protection on RIAA members' products.
Yup. Thought crime. That's what every good government should try to stop.
Why should we legalize something that would result in more crime? It seems to make more sense to lock up the illegal porn producer pour encourager les autres instead of making that porn legal then locking up the criminal influenced by the porn.
A little less wear and tear on society, in my view.
If you don't believe me, try it yourself.
Child pronogrpahy is illegal, but how many kids are forced into it every year? A few hundred, maybe. Even if the remaining 1.19 or so million number is correct (which I seriously doubt, unless prostitution includes giving your boyfriend a bj so he'll buy you clothes), you're probably talking about runaways, addicts and street kids who turn to prostitution. Sad, tragic, but that has nothing to do with pornography.
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