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The Pornography Plague
Leadership U ^ | Kerby Anderson

Posted on 07/14/2004 7:46:19 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: FightThePower!

I would say that you are concerned about this because you are a sexual deviant.


261 posted on 07/14/2004 10:41:39 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Junior

Jumping in late here, but I don't agree with what appears to me to be Junior's argument, of "don't like, don't look".

The porn industry, much like the other vice-based industries it so overtly and covertly in your face with their product that I believe the government needs to extremely regulate them.

Take a look at cigarette or alcohol advertising in the proximity of schools. The corporate vice-mongers want, no need, the next generation of addicts to become exposed to their product.

You can hardly do a search on Google without coming up with pornographic material, even with filters on. There is a blatant ongoing strategy to addict your kids to this material. This needs to be stopped.

Now before you get all bent out of shape, I do not agree with your choices, or your argument, but I do agree with your right to decide what you you expose yourself to. Keyword, YOURSELF!

It is your freedom as an American. A freedom many of our brothers and sisters have died to protect, a freedom I would die to protect, however, let's keep this in context.

I am talking about the proliferation of temptatation in the form of graphic and inappropriate material where it does not belong, in my face, or in the faces of my future children. If I want to be exposed to it, I can seek it out.

It's nothing more than SPAM, un-solicited, un-welcome, SPAM!

Regulate it to protect the children, that's my 2 cents!


262 posted on 07/14/2004 10:41:49 AM PDT by SanityFromTheLeftCoast (Without controversy, there is no discourse…)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

XXX: A Woman's Right to Pornography


by Wendy McElroy

http://www.zetetics.com/xxx/index.html


I see it as an issue of property rights beginning with the fact that we own our bodies.


263 posted on 07/14/2004 10:42:19 AM PDT by society-by-contract
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To: cherry

Everything you listed is happening NOW yet it has failed to turn me into Tailgunner Joe.


264 posted on 07/14/2004 10:43:44 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: robertpaulsen
If porn moves from the adult bookstore at $69.95 per video to the local 7-11 at $14.95 per video, porn producers will be looking to invest in any remaining high profit (illegal) business.

Look online- very little porn sells for more than 39.99 or so. Much of it sells for 19.99-29.99. Most porn is produced by legal, fairly respectable companies such as Vivid, Playboy and Hustler. Other than kiddie porn and bestiality, there really isn't such a thing as "illegal porn. "

265 posted on 07/14/2004 10:43:56 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: society-by-contract
If you owned your bodies you could sell your organs, prostitute yourself, etc.

Human being are not property, not even their own.

266 posted on 07/14/2004 10:44:36 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Modernman
"(kiddie porn being the exception, of course)."

why???

oh you sanctimonious pervert......you don't mind making addicts and alcoholics and diseased women starting at age 18, turning them into animals seeking their next fix....

Does encouraging people to live like animals and to be sinners actually mean anything to you?

of course, porn is just plain sinful, but don't let that bother you....

267 posted on 07/14/2004 10:47:12 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
what will turn you finally is when they start recruiting HS BOYS....... any of your sons or grandsons into porn for the arrogant homosexual crowd...

There's plenty of gay porn out there. The principle remains the same: so long as everyone involved in watching and making the gay porn is a consenting adult, government cannot outlaw it.

Would I want my sons or daughters to work in porn? No. I wouldn't want them to work in a coal mine, either. That doesn't mean that I want the government to outlaw West Virginia.

268 posted on 07/14/2004 10:48:50 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: cyborg

You will save yourself a tremendous amount of grief with that stance. Kudos to you.


269 posted on 07/14/2004 10:50:26 AM PDT by Frapster (Not with the wisdom of man's words but through the demonstration of power.)
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To: Modernman
That doesn't mean that I want the government to outlaw West Virginia.

Senator Robert Byrd is living proof that it would be "wrong, WRONG, WRONG! IRRESPONSIBLE! IRRESPONSIBLE!" to outlaw porn and keep West Virginia legal...

270 posted on 07/14/2004 10:50:28 AM PDT by Poohbah (Technical difficulties have temporarily interrupted this tagline. Please stand by.)
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To: Wolfie
No doubt about it. Capitalism rocks


I agree that the market process rocks, but what most folks think of as capitalism is really state capitalism, complete with taxes, licenses and regulations. My camp has dropped anarcho-capitalism in favor of market anarchism. FWIW.

271 posted on 07/14/2004 10:51:56 AM PDT by society-by-contract
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Hey TJ, you continue to claim that making porn is illegal. Please provide for us the relevent statutes and codes that show it to be illegal.


272 posted on 07/14/2004 10:52:08 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Can't remember. The title was "The Gnurrs Come from the Woodwork Out." The first of the Papa Schimmelhorn stories, if I remember correctly.


273 posted on 07/14/2004 10:52:57 AM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: SanityFromTheLeftCoast

bttt


274 posted on 07/14/2004 10:53:22 AM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: society-by-contract
I see it as an issue of property rights beginning with the fact that we own our bodies.

Yesterday Joe told me that I do not own my body. When asked who does, his answer was "nobody".

275 posted on 07/14/2004 10:53:37 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Phantom Lord
Are you saying that a separate set of laws should apply to you? Why did you ask the question that way?

Some states have laws against gambling because, in general, gambling harms the community/society.

276 posted on 07/14/2004 10:54:38 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I don't know about you, Joe, but my life is my own. I support decriminalizing sex for money as well as a free market in human organs. If you do not own your organs, who does?


277 posted on 07/14/2004 10:54:51 AM PDT by society-by-contract
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To: cherry
oh you sanctimonious pervert......you don't mind making addicts and alcoholics and diseased women starting at age 18, turning them into animals seeking their next fix....

People are adults at age 18. They are free to engage in any legal employment they desire, no matter how dangerous. I'm not "turning" anybody into anything by watching porn. Whatever decisions the porn performers made that led them to being in those movies are their own. If they don't like their jobs, they can always quit and do something else.

Does encouraging people to live like animals and to be sinners actually mean anything to you?

I'm not encouraging anyone to do anything. They're adults, they make their own decisions.

of course, porn is just plain sinful, but don't let that bother you

Okay.

278 posted on 07/14/2004 10:55:33 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: society-by-contract
Zetetics.com - A site for Individualist Feminism and Individualist Anarchism
279 posted on 07/14/2004 10:56:04 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: society-by-contract

No one does.


280 posted on 07/14/2004 10:56:35 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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