[Eighth Square]

During War 2, England was locked down, imminent invasion ect., travel was difficult and permits were necessary to relocate. Talk was guarded, roadblocks were numerous and all citizens were subject to questioning and search if deemed necessary. No one complained and everyone understood. It was not a police state, the citizens were mature enough to recognize that the nation was at war. The bad guys are here already and we are at war.

Your point re the open borders is more than valid, it is unbelieveable considering the times we live in. One school of thought holds that it is part of a long term plan to establish an economic block including both Americas, with open borders throughout, therefore the lack of enforcement would be intentional. Too soon I would think.

[NJ_gent]

"Talk was guarded, roadblocks were numerous and all citizens were subject to questioning and search if deemed necessary."

That's not the America I grew up in, not the one I want my kids to grow up in, and is, in my opinion, completely and totally unnecessary to secure this nation. Secure the borders and coastline, replace the INS with a functional organization, and fix our foreign intelligence services - we'll be as safe as we can be, and we'll be a hell of a lot more free. It's the individual liberties that have made this country so prosperous and powerful. When you look at a nation which behaves opposite to how we behave, such as North Korea, you see nothing but death and despair among the population. Freedom equals prosperity.

[Eastbound]

"Too soon I would think."

Yup. Very bad timing. But no time would be a good time. And it is more than just an economic block, it's part of a global zones and regions agenda, with plans to eliminate the Sovereignty of nations. Not only bad timing, but a bad reason.