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CA: Insurance rates down 10.38 percent overall, but commissioner says that's not enough
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 7/13/04 | AP - Sacramento

Posted on 07/13/2004 6:24:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO (AP) - California's workers' compensation insurance rates have dropped an average 10.38 percent since lawmakers adopted a series of cost-cutting measures, but greater decreases are possible, Insurance Commissioner John Garamendi said Tuesday. "Workers' compensation rates are definitely on the down escalator, but the escalator needs to speed up," Garamendi said. "Greater savings are possible."

The workers' comp insurance rates paid by California employers shot up dramatically in recent years, increasing 200 percent to 300 percent for some businesses.

Lawmakers responded last fall and this spring with legislation that, among other things, imposed new limits on benefits for injured workers and capped charges by doctors, pharmacies and outpatient clinics in workers' comp cases.

In the wake of the changes, Garamendi urged insurers in May to slash rates nearly 21 percent for policies that were renewed or purchased starting July 1.

He said last week that California's largest workers' comp insurer, the nonprofit State Compensation Insurance Fund, could cut its rates another 5.9 percent by changing its underwriting practices, expanding its investments and reducing its commissions.

The fund has cut its rates 9.7 percent since the legislation took effect.

Nicole Mahrt, a spokeswoman for the American Insurance Association, said insurers are "cutting rates as much as they are able to," given that not all of the changes in this year's legislation have taken effect yet.

"I think carriers are reducing rates based on faith," she said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; commissioner; garamendi; insurancerates; notenough; overall

1 posted on 07/13/2004 6:24:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: *calgov2002; california


2 posted on 07/13/2004 6:25:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Godspeed x40 ... Support Our Troops!!! ......Become a FR Monthly Donor ...)
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To: NormsRevenge

I wish we had him in Texas.


3 posted on 07/13/2004 6:26:12 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya

Just send 9.95 and a self-addressed box to

Merkle. B. DePre$$ed
PO Box XYZ
Podunk, Idaho



Allow 4 to 6 weeks (or maybe a term or 2) for delivery

(Are things that bad in TeXas?) :-o


4 posted on 07/13/2004 6:34:20 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Godspeed x40 ... Support Our Troops!!! ......Become a FR Monthly Donor ...)
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To: NormsRevenge

Property taxes and insurance are out of sight.


5 posted on 07/13/2004 6:37:39 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya

It's creeping socialism and a penchant for the Nanny state/cradle to grave folks... and a lot of money greasing folks palms for favorable legislation w/o regard for the impact it will have on society as a whole.

We are all in this fight together.


6 posted on 07/13/2004 6:41:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Godspeed x40 ... Support Our Troops!!! ......Become a FR Monthly Donor ...)
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To: NormsRevenge
It's creeping socialism and a penchant for the Nanny state/cradle to grave folks... and a lot of money greasing folks palms for favorable legislation w/o regard for the impact it will have on society as a whole. We are all in this fight together.

That is very true in Texas.

7 posted on 07/13/2004 6:45:26 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: NormsRevenge
So basically insurers are still prolly losing money, but the department is forcing them to cut rates regardless so he can look good. What a hero!

Anyone ever think of trying FREE MARKET COMPETITION!?!?!?

8 posted on 07/13/2004 6:48:38 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Yes, I do think I'm funny, why do you ask?)
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To: Dubya
That is very true in Texas.

The Texas Department of Insurance is so bad it darn near drove one of its biggest insurers, Farmers, out of the state!

And yet still people think greater regulation is the answer .... {sigh}

9 posted on 07/13/2004 6:51:07 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Yes, I do think I'm funny, why do you ask?)
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To: NormsRevenge
Here is good example.

Strayhorn calls for federal probe of CHIP contract

It seems that as long as its a Republican doing it, its OK.

10 posted on 07/13/2004 6:51:47 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: JohnnyZ

I hope Farmers don't let the door hit them in the back as they leave.


11 posted on 07/13/2004 6:53:11 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wow. Could you guys send him over to Louisiana?

Our last three insurance commissioners are currently serving time in federal prison. I'm not kidding.


12 posted on 07/13/2004 6:57:42 PM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: Dubya
I hope Farmers don't let the door hit them in the back as they leave.

So you would like to drive away one of the state's largest insurers? Because even less competition would lower rates .... how? I guess you're one of those who wants insurers to pay out millions in claims but doesn't think people should actually have to pay for the coverage they receive. Where do you think the money to pay claims comes from?

13 posted on 07/13/2004 6:57:49 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Yes, I do think I'm funny, why do you ask?)
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To: Dubya

Since most of my bookkeeping clients have had a 400% boost in their workmen's comp insurance, this 10=% is a drop in the bucket. Rates that used to be about 50 cents/$100 of gross payroll are now in the area of $2.03/$100 gross payroll. That would be a drop of about 21 cents, and we are still paying way more than we should. There is a serious problem in Calif with workmen's comp, and someone has to strip off the covers and expose it once and for all.


14 posted on 07/13/2004 6:58:31 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Dubya
I hope Farmers don't let the door hit them in the back as they leave.

Yeah...they are evil. Replace 'em with a government run group like the nonprofit State Compensation Insurance Fund and they we can run our insurance firms like the post office or the school system.

15 posted on 07/13/2004 7:21:12 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: JohnnyZ
I'm not driving anyone away. If they leave it will be their desion, not mine.
16 posted on 07/13/2004 7:28:18 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: ridesthemiles
someone has to strip off the covers and expose it once and for all.

I'm pulling for CA. I hope it gets done.

17 posted on 07/13/2004 7:29:52 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: JohnnyZ

You must sell Farmers Ins. LOL


18 posted on 07/13/2004 7:30:34 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: All

In Texas its against the law for a Title Ins Co. to cut the rate to anyone. They must charge full price for ever policy.
The Title Ins Cos are not even allowed to buy me a diet RC or dinner. Not that I want them to. But they should be able to give people a discount if they want to IMO.

With all the Rs running Texas, I wonder how that law got passed. LOL


19 posted on 07/13/2004 7:34:16 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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