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Ron Reagan Shocker: Stem Cells WON'T Cure Alzheimer's
NewsMax .com ^ | 7/13/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 07/13/2004 8:12:11 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: kattracks
He says he still backs the campaign for embryonic stem cell research because it might cure other diseases such as Parkinson's and diabetes.

I heard that drinking the blood of a virgin will keep you young.

61 posted on 07/14/2004 12:28:10 PM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: Sloth
LOL!
62 posted on 07/14/2004 12:38:11 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Sloth

Kerry probably thinks he will be able to grow a new prostate if he cuts an embryo in half and sticks it between his legs. No doubt he's anxious to get back out cruising the bimbo and intern circuit.


63 posted on 07/14/2004 12:41:18 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
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64 posted on 07/14/2004 1:56:36 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: Askel5
Have you seen the article in reply 29?
65 posted on 07/14/2004 2:14:29 PM PDT by ELS
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; Balto_Boy; ...
I say this announcement is prep for him changing his speech subject to "Why Dubya's a doodyhead and Kerry's just like my Dad, only smarter."

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66 posted on 07/14/2004 4:05:37 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: danamco
He's tooo stupid to do so. He was told by somebody else!!!

Yeah, but whoever told him had to do it just seconds before he walked up to the microphone. Otherwise he would have forgotten it.

67 posted on 07/14/2004 4:09:40 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: kattracks
"Alzheimer‘s is a disease, ironically, that probably won‘t be amenable to treatment through stem cell therapies,"

"Ironically?" What makes it ironic? Transfusions or iron pills not helping anemia would be ironic, this is just a result that was unexpected by starry-eyed suckers and exploited, grieving families.

"For people to suggest that [Nancy Reagan] shouldn’t support this because it isn’t Alzheimer's . . that’s very small,"

Not nearly as small as expecting a little kid to die for medical results we'll soon be able to get from scraping a 40 year-old's skin cells.

He says he still backs the campaign for embryonic stem cell research because it might cure other diseases such as Parkinson's and diabetes.

Except that there's no serious evidence that either of them will be helped by it, either. Oops.

68 posted on 07/14/2004 4:11:22 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: dead
Everything is ironic. Thanks Alanis Morissette.

Heh-heh. Did you ever see the running gag on NewsRadio where Dave kept trying to explain to everyone why nothing in the song was actually ironic?

If karma were real, Alanis Morissette would be reborn a thousand times as a boozie, chardonnay-addicted black fly. And it would be a bitter little pill for her, I'm sure.

69 posted on 07/14/2004 4:13:30 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: kattracks
it might cure other diseases

It might do this and it might do that. Want to buy some stock in the company?

70 posted on 07/14/2004 4:15:10 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: dnmore
The other interesting aspect of this is that the press keeps saying that the Bush Admin doesn't fund Stem Cell Research. I believe it "didn't" fund the research to the tune of 250M$ THIS YEAR.

Yes, but in Ron's world, not funding the baby-killing kind is the same as not funding any...funny world he lives in.

71 posted on 07/14/2004 4:15:38 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: Alberta's Child
The issue with Alzheimer's disease is that any stem-cell treatment will be utterly ineffective in treating it. The problem is that Alzheimer's is what is called a "whole brain" disease as opposed to a "brain cell" disease -- so any treatment dealing with individual cells won't do a damn thing.

Yeah, what do they think that a crop of stem cells could do about plaque on the brain? Zippo, that's what. And even if Alzheimer's was a problem involving the death of cells or damage to cells, we'd be using stem cells to replace them with brand new brain cells. A brand new neuron doesn't help you remember somebody's face, it's frickin' empty!

Of course, that's assuming that embryonic stem cells are useful at all, which we're not seeing with the data so far. Research in that area is simply killing kids on a wisp of a forlorn hope, or in other words, grant-money-a-rama.

72 posted on 07/14/2004 4:24:20 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: AmishDude
Thu: Cleland (did you know Kerry was in Vietnam?) and the Heinz and Kerry families.

Expect the theme of his speech to be, "they questioned my patriotism" even though it was his judgement that was questioned, and rightly so. It's all these guys have on the foreign policy front: "Shut up! If you question why we're screwing up on National Security you must be calling us commies! McCarthyite!"

73 posted on 07/14/2004 4:30:10 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: AmishDude
"Mayor Martin O'Malley is more worried about President Bush's policies than he is about al-Qaida terrorists, and he's not reluctant to say so."

First reaction: what a first class idiot.

Second reaction: Even if that quote had "Senator Kerry's policies" in it I wouldn't agree with it. What an idiot.

Third reaction: This is the same O'Malley who stood up to the (IIRC) AFL-CIO prez and chewed him out in public? Did weasels eat his brain in the interim?

74 posted on 07/14/2004 4:34:18 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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Tells me Ron read some of our good educational stuff on stem cells. We need to be encouraged -- keep on educating. We know it, but how will they know unless told?

Also gives me great hope for Ron. If within a few weeks of time, during a tremendously stressful time, he's still able to think clearly upon hearing what he didn't know before, and he's humble enough to clearly, publicly express his new knowledge...those are all good signs of Reagan blood running in his veins. Somewhere.


75 posted on 07/14/2004 4:41:35 PM PDT by gentlestrength
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To: gentlestrength; cpforlife.org; Coleus; rhema; Caleb1411; Mr. Silverback; Romulus; logos; Askel5; ...
On your positive note, allow me to offer the following ... which never seems to get told in the media.

Four words and their meanings are crucial to understanding these complex issues in a simplified way: organ, organism, form, function.

A sperm or ovum is produced in an organ, a substructure of an organism. Organism is the whole being, organ is a substructure. An embryo is an entire organism at earliest age. The embryo begins cell differentiation very soon upon cell division commencing (building the first ORGAN for his or her survival, called the placenta). The process of embryonic growth is one of form ... the fetal body is formed, then function follows (just as the placenta is formed then begins functioning to exchange gasses and nutrients for the alive embryo that then begins building the body of organs which will support the continuing life once the being exits into the air world)). If embryo stem cells are harvested and used on fully formed humans, these formational stem cells tend to form and form and form, without differentiating into function!

Parkinson's patients injected with fetal stem cells(embryo stem cells) have grown tissue not meant to be located in the brain, and death has followed such abnormal formation. The process of cell differentiation is actually one that continues throughout a lifetime, as repair cells function to replace and support damaged tissues. Stem cells (called MAPCs, for multi-potent adult progenitor cells) are produced in various parts of the body, stem cells that are ready to differentiate into specific tissues when located to a particular formational site, influenced to turn into the tissues of that particular site by enzymes and other influences particular to that formational position in the formed body.

The research with embryonic stem cells (earliest fetal body parts) is undertaken as a means to use cloned embryos/fetuses for harvesting histamine matched functional tissues. Even the researchers admit they look forward to 'therapeutic' cloning in order to conceive embryos as tissue twins to the DNA donor. Cloning is intimately connected to the direction embryo stem cell exploitation wants to go. If the world can be brought along into the cannibalism of 'to be discarded' alive embryos in fertilization clinic freezers, then human cloning will be much easier to slip into place, to slip into acceptance by an uneducated (uneducated as to the technicalities), secular people.

Killing embryo AGED individual human ORGANISMS, for their body parts, is cannibalism as surely as it would be were the embryos placed upon crackers for curative snacks.

76 posted on 07/14/2004 6:33:35 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Coleus

Looks like someone finally penetrated Ron's thick head to save the Reagan family further embarrassment and heartache. Remember you read it here first that no stem cells can help Alzheimer's disease and that gene and drug therapies are the research and treatments of choice.

I wonder if Nancy still believes in using tarot cards and astrologers?




Even if they get through to Ron, I fear he still is a Demoncrat at heart. He should have known this BEFORE his mother became addicted to the idea. This is not exactly new news.

As for Nancy, I suspect her astrology and tarrot days are over. She loved her husband but lost tract of the fact that it is God who is in control and He will do as He sees fit. With her husband gone, I don't think she will have the zest to live and the reason to use these quacks is also gone. I only hope she drops the idea of embryonic stem cell research. Clearly that is in denial of Ronald Regans wishes. He wouldn't have wanted that done.


77 posted on 07/14/2004 6:47:09 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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78 posted on 07/14/2004 8:24:10 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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79 posted on 07/14/2004 8:42:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: kattracks

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80 posted on 08/27/2005 9:40:12 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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