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To: The Green Goblin
You're arguing that in cases where it is a confirmed medical fact that a married couple can never have children, that such a marriage should be desolved by the state.

Not in the least.

Marriage is a broad based institution that exists to protect people who could potentially create and raise children, i.e. a man and a woman, and to protect those children. It is an elevated status that represents the special responsibilities of that social unit. Society has this broad institution because it's a big picture concept.

If a tiny percentage of people are unable to produce children, they shouldn't be punished for it. Doctors have known to be wrong, and they could wind up with a child. They could adopt, and raise a child in a male / female family unit. The potential for healthy childraising still exists.

This is fundamentally different from a group of sexual hobbyists who are by definition unable to procreate, and on the whole could not raise well adjusted children. No matter how big or small a picture you look at, gay society does not reproduce, and has no need for an institution that protects children.

If they want to 'go steady' then that's fine. Behind closed doors, it's their business. We shouldn't have to finance it, or give it our sociatal stamp of approval.

65 posted on 07/13/2004 12:07:31 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (What? Bread AND circuses, ... for free?!?)
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To: Steel Wolf
Marriage is a broad based institution that exists to protect people who could potentially create and raise children

Well, then, you are saying that marriages that are absolutely confirmed to be sterile should be dissolved by the state.

If a tiny percentage of people are unable to produce children, they shouldn't be punished for it. Doctors have known to be wrong, and they could wind up with a child.

Raising this argument in the case of (for example) a woman who has had a hysterectomy makes you sound like the pet shop keeper in Monty Python's "dead parrot" sketch.

They could adopt, and raise a child in a male / female family unit. The potential for healthy childraising still exists.

"Could" and "potential" don't cut it. Adoption can't "just happen" in the course of events, the way that pregnancy "just happens" when a heterosexual couple goes at it enough times. It requires a series of deliberate actions. Thus, the logic of your argument would make an ironclad agreement to pursue at least one adoption a prerequisite for permitting a sterile couple to marry.

68 posted on 07/13/2004 12:14:25 PM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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