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To: steve-b
Invalid argument. Military defense is a legitimate function of government. Social engineering is not. Advocacy of government funding for illegitimate functions belongs in the DUmpster, not here.

Social engineering? Who's the one advocating gay marriage here?

We're talking about preserving the ideals of the Judeo-Christian culture that make the freedom you enjoy possible. Already, marriage is in bad shape in this country. The divorce rate is high, children are born out of wedlock, and the nation suffers because of it. Everyone in America knows someone that has suffered because the institution of marriage has been weakened.

Look at countries that relax their laws on marriage. Their divorces increase, as do their illigitimacy rates. It is pushing them to decline and decay. We need to be pushing in the opposite direction, and making marriage more special, and more protected, not cheaper and more frivolous.

I realize that Libertarians don't care, because to them the individual is all, but it's an irresponsible attitude. If we can't defend marriage, then our culture will not remain viable.

126 posted on 07/13/2004 4:04:14 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (What? Bread AND circuses, ... for free?!?)
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To: Steel Wolf
If we can't defend marriage, then our culture will not remain viable.

So, outlaw divorce.
129 posted on 07/13/2004 5:18:29 PM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: Steel Wolf
Social engineering?

Yep -- that's what it's called when men with guns take money from Peter to give it to Paul because the government prefers Paul's habits.

You're busted, and might as well fess up.

134 posted on 07/14/2004 3:54:27 AM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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To: Steel Wolf
Who's the one advocating gay marriage here?

I am advocating nothing, except that the government remove itself from one of its interferences in society.

Really, there are so many such interferences that to advocate the end of any one of them is about as radical as removing one speck of mud from a pigsty.

135 posted on 07/14/2004 3:57:24 AM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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