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To: backinthefold

I can't believe you think moveon.org is a communist/fascist site, and yet Freerepublic is somehow balanced. I am scared at where political discourse in this country is going.....people ONLY want media that espouses their own beliefs, media that doesn't challenge their beliefs. A clear majority of the news on FreeRepublic, a misnomer if I ever heard one, support only its views.

As for gays who claim to make a choice.......you clearly don't understand sexuality, and are eager to lap up only those answers that support the way you view things. Many so-called gay and lesbian people are really bisexual.....bisexuality is common in a majority of people...few people are either totally straight or totally gay, most people have, at one time or another, had feelings for the same sex. In this sense, I suppose it would be easy for someone to say they CHOOSE to be gay or straight, because they really do have a choice. There are MANY gay people though who are NOT attracted to the opposite sex at all, and for these people, there is no choice. You can't choose who you are attracted to.....I'm suprised that someone who seems as intelligent as you could actually believe this.

Jason


29 posted on 07/13/2004 8:12:12 AM PDT by Jayhuck (Free Republic isn't FREE, and Gay people don't choose who they are attracted to!!!)
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To: Jayhuck
. . . few people are either totally straight or totally gay, most people have, at one time or another, had feelings for the same sex.

Most glad I don't live in your neighborhood.

31 posted on 07/13/2004 8:14:18 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Jayhuck

10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3......


33 posted on 07/13/2004 8:16:47 AM PDT by BMiles2112
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To: Jayhuck
Having trouble thinking straight are we?

P.S. One shouldn't end a sentence with a preposition.

34 posted on 07/13/2004 8:18:37 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (vote Democrat, it beats working for a living)
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To: Jayhuck

How old are you Jay?


35 posted on 07/13/2004 8:18:55 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Jayhuck
Let me repeat what Huck said in post #12 above.
A person doesn't CHOOSE to be a schizophrenic, but that doesn't make it any less a disorder. Likewise, even if someone doesn't CHOOSE homosexual tendencies, it doesn't mean it is therefore healthy and normal.

42 posted on 07/13/2004 8:29:21 AM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: Jayhuck
few people are either totally straight or totally gay, most people have, at one time or another, had feelings for the same sex.

You're simply reflecting the experience of your provincial set of friends. In fact, most people never are attracted to those of their own gender.

44 posted on 07/13/2004 8:29:56 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: Jayhuck

--.you clearly don't understand sexuality, and are eager to lap up only those answers that support the way you view things--

Please understand this, I have friends who are gay, and had a very close relative who is gay. this relative has told me, that he chooses who to be with, which was a woman (he has passed away) We all make choices everyday. I am all for a civil union, but as I stated in the email, the definition of marrage is between a man and a woman. Why must we change the definition of something because a small portion of people want it? One of my best gay friends, love to say, when he was drunk, he loved boobies, but when sober his choice was men.

I am not homophobic, please dont think that.

This has nothing to do with religion, but with what the word "marriage" is, a man and a woman. I chose the man I married 18 years ago, this was our choice.

This is what I mean by choice.


48 posted on 07/13/2004 8:31:06 AM PDT by backinthefold (9/11 changed me, and I will never forget)
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To: Jayhuck

Accepting that premise throws the issue back to society and its underlying order; the court still remains the means to resolution.


54 posted on 07/13/2004 8:33:50 AM PDT by Old Professer (Interests in common are commonly abused.)
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To: Jayhuck
There are MANY gay people though who are NOT attracted to the opposite sex at all, and for these people, there is no choice.

Feelings are irrelevant. Behavior is chosen.

74 posted on 07/13/2004 8:57:35 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: Jayhuck
I can't believe you think moveon.org is a communist/fascist site, and yet Freerepublic is somehow balanced.

Moveon.org is a communist/fascist site. FreeRepublic is more balanced, but still an openly and avowed conservative website.

I am scared at where political discourse in this country is going.....people ONLY want media that espouses their own beliefs, media that doesn't challenge their beliefs.

People are tired of being lied to, and have been scared at where the media discourse had been going for decades. People on FR challenge each others beliefs every day, but from a pro-American, conservative viewpoint. Thinking with your head, your heart, and your conscience will tend to narrow the field of discourse a bit, but that's the price you pay for being a responsible adult.

As for gays who claim to make a choice.......you clearly don't understand sexuality, and are eager to lap up only those answers that support the way you view things. Many so-called gay and lesbian people are really bisexual.....

Now, into the meat. What purpose do you have in stating this in reference to an article about gay marriage? You can break out your DSMV-IV and recite all day how homosexuality is normal in humans, but what does that have to do with the societal concept of marriage?

I ask because marrige is a concept that revolves around children, and homosexuality is one that revolves around pleasure. The similarities are superficial, at best.

110 posted on 07/13/2004 9:41:59 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (What? Bread AND circuses, ... for free?!?)
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To: Jayhuck

Do you support gay marrige?


112 posted on 07/13/2004 9:45:16 AM PDT by BMiles2112
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To: Jayhuck

I admire your spirit, but Freerepublic is more a place for conservatives to debate the finer points of conservative philosophy. You can post from the left if you'd like, but don't expect to get many converts.


115 posted on 07/13/2004 9:50:22 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: Darksheare; Conspiracy Guy

Troll ping!


123 posted on 07/13/2004 10:00:56 AM PDT by PreviouslyA-Lurker (al-Qa'ida terrorists are cowards who hide behind masks and decapitate helpless victims.)
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To: Jayhuck

I love my dad, my brothers, and my male friends. But not in that way.

Homosexuality IMHO is a developmental disorder PERIOD.


129 posted on 07/13/2004 10:09:27 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Kerry has a Carter Plan. Bush has a Reagan Plan. You choose which is your plan.)
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To: Jayhuck
......few people are either totally straight or totally gay, most people have, at one time or another, had feelings for the same sex.

Try as you might, most of us cannot be pulled down into your sewer.

237 posted on 07/13/2004 2:38:05 PM PDT by Petronski (Soros: a left-wing billionaire currency speculator who funds many liberal efforts)
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To: Jayhuck; Jim Robinson
Jim, I'm not sure you've seen this quote:

I can't believe you think moveon.org is a communist/fascist site, and yet Freerepublic is somehow balanced.

At your unbalanced service,

jp

241 posted on 07/13/2004 2:51:08 PM PDT by Petronski (Soros: a left-wing billionaire currency speculator who funds many liberal efforts)
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To: Jayhuck

Free Republic does not claim to be "balanced" or faire:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1103363/posts

Buh bye, troll.


246 posted on 07/13/2004 3:03:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jayhuck

The return of JAY-SON.
Moveon.org IS communist.
What?
Don't ike hearing that?
OOooh, bet that stings a little to hear the truth.
Go home troll.
Oopsies, you did that already.


253 posted on 07/14/2004 5:35:32 AM PDT by Darksheare (Join Artillery! Get paid to BLOW THINGS UP and BREAK THINGS. And mom said that wasn't possible.)
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