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'Like A Menu Of Choice, We Will Offer The Amnesties First, Then The Executions'
London Times ^ | 7/12/04 | By Richard Lloyd Parry

Posted on 07/12/2004 6:26:09 PM PDT by Former Military Chick

London Times July 12, 2004

'Like A Menu Of Choice, We Will Offer The Amnesties First, Then The Executions'

Iraq’s President believes in a carrot and stick approach

By Richard Lloyd Parry

IRAQ’S new Government is to pursue a carrot-and-stick approach to the country’s security crisis with a general amnesty for insurgents to be followed by a revival of judicial executions, the country’s President told The Times yesterday.

The steps will cause disquiet in America and Britain, the two key partners in the coalition which overthrew Saddam Hussein.

The amnesty will bring immunity from punishment to the killers of more than 550 coalition soldiers since the endof the war, while the restoration of the death penalty will conflict with Britain’s long-standing policy not to co-operate with any trial that could end in execution.

Sheikh Ghazi al-Yawer, 46, is a tribal chief and early critic of the occupation who was appointed President by the now-defunct Iraqi Governing Council last month against the wishes of Paul Bremer, the coalition’s now-departed chief administrator.

A visit to his office in the heart of Baghdad’s US-run green zone vividly demonstrates the need to curb the violence which threatens the country’s tentative steps towards independence and democracy.

Just 300 yards away is a pothole left by an incoming mortar. His office is reached after four body-searches and five identity checks. Half the people inside his office are British, Australian and South African security guards carrying automatic rifles under their tattooed arms.

The President, wearing Arab dress, said that a law outlining the terms of the amnesty was likely in the next few days, and that it would be followed by the revival of the death penalty which was frozen by the coalition soon after Saddam’s fall.

“It’s good to have a carrot-and-stick approach,” he said. “We will offer the amnesty first, then we will have this law for executions...so there is a menu to choose from. It’s up to (the insurgents) to make a smart choice.” The amnesty has been agreed by the Cabinet of the Prime Minister, Iyad Allawi, and Sheikh al-Yawer will sign it into being when the legal details have been finalised. But yesterday he outlined a comprehensive “no questions” pardon for “politically oriented violence”.

“If they sincerely feel that they are sorry for what they have done and they sign an undertaking that it will never happen again...we shouldn’t ask (any questions),” the President said.

“They killed our flesh and blood. . .they killed close friends of mine. If we keep nagging about this then it will be a circle of blood, and we want to break that circle of blood.”

The amnesty is an attempt to drive a wedge between factions of what the Government believes to be an increasingly fractious insurgency, divided between hard-line foreign extremists and former members of Saddam’s Baath party.

By appealing to the nationalist loyalties of the latter, the Government hopes to isolate the former, and draw Iraqi insurgents into the political process leading to the general election planned for next year.

Sheikh al-Yawer said that he had indirectly sent messages to members of the insurgency to appeal for their surrender under the amnesty. “I cannot and I will not ever get in touch with people who are killing, but indirectly I am passing them messages — ‘you can run, but you cannot hide’,” he said. “A lot of people say that they are willing to make use of the amnesty, and (they) want to do it through (me).

“If there are witnesses to say, ‘That guy killed two soldiers’, then that is an individual criminal case which can be brought to justice,” Sheikh al-Yawer said.

“You can’t incriminate a whole city or a whole village or a whole group of people. In the UK you have offered amnesty to the IRA so this is just natural.”

In theory, applications for amnesty will be assessed by a judge, but few people are expected to be refused. “I don’t think anyone will be stupid enough to come and say, ‘By the way, I killed two or three guys’,” he said. “And we are not going to torture them to say that.”

The success of any amnesty will depend on how it is implemented, but the President gave few practical details. It will be conducted locally, at police stations and military bases.

Insurgents will have to sign a document and surrender their heavy weapons. But in a country awash with stray machineguns, rocket-propelled grenades and even surface-to-air missiles, it is hard to see how the effectiveness of a weapons amnesty can be monitored.

There is no doubt that most Iraqis support the restoration of the death penalty, but Sheikh al-Yawer insisted that the criminal code of the old regime would be amended.

Under Saddam, scores of crimes including membership of opposition political parties were punishable by death.

Sheikh al-Yawer said: “We will filter out the things which are too harsh. We must have a live-and-let-live society. Saddam Hussein had a live-and-let-die society.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alyawer; deathpenalty; iraq; iraqijustice; rebuildingiraq; saddam
Just 2 words, Death Penalty!
1 posted on 07/12/2004 6:26:10 PM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; Dog; Cap Huff; Coop; ...

ping!


2 posted on 07/12/2004 6:47:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (New Linux SUSE Pro 9.1 user here.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“We will offer the amnesty first, then we will have this law for executions...so there is a menu to choose from..."

ROFLMAO........get down!!!!!

3 posted on 07/12/2004 6:54:54 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: John Jorsett; Steve_Seattle; chilepepper; LS; cripplecreek; GVgirl; Judith Anne; MJY1288; ...

The Al Queda need to hurry and get out of town!!!!


4 posted on 07/12/2004 6:55:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (New Linux SUSE Pro 9.1 user here.)
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To: Former Military Chick

I've a sneaking suspicion that some of these thugs are going to end up longing for the good old days of dog leashes and pink panties.


5 posted on 07/12/2004 6:56:48 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
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To: Former Military Chick

That's some menu he's got cookin!


6 posted on 07/12/2004 6:57:05 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: Howlin; Former Military Chick
Just in case you haven't seen this:

Why al Qaeda is Fleeing Iraq

7 posted on 07/12/2004 6:57:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (New Linux SUSE Pro 9.1 user here.)
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To: backhoe; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; doug from upland; Jim Robinson
Good things are happening!
8 posted on 07/12/2004 7:00:44 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (New Linux SUSE Pro 9.1 user here.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thank you for the link, Earnest.


9 posted on 07/12/2004 7:14:40 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (I previously posted under Military Chick)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks!


10 posted on 07/12/2004 7:21:01 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Just another Bush-bot biddy drinking that Republican KoolAid.)
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To: Former Military Chick; Dog Gone; lupie; lightingguy; IPWGOP; AgThorn; jigsaw; BlessedBeGod; ...

Thanks for posting the article.

More need to see it.


11 posted on 07/12/2004 7:28:12 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (New Linux SUSE Pro 9.1 user here.)
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To: Howlin

"We Will Offer The Amnesties First, Then The Executions"

The Iraqi version of "You are either with us or with the terrorists".


12 posted on 07/12/2004 7:33:45 PM PDT by geopyg (Peace..................through decisive and ultimate VICTORY. (Democracy, whiskey, sexy))
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To: geopyg

To tell you the truth, I sort of like THEIR version better. :-)


13 posted on 07/12/2004 7:34:18 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Howlin
To tell you the truth, I sort of like THEIR version better. :-)

I have given thought as to how I would have liked him to suffer justice. Bring in the mother of one the many females that was raped. Let her decide on how she would let him suffer pain. Let me say Bobbit anyone?

Then bring in one of the men who recently were given a new lease on life with the workable arm that they received as a result of the loss when Saddam chopped of their hand. I say big knife, then chop. Then those who have been beaten, well you get the road I am going down.

In the end no punishment will ever be enough.

14 posted on 07/12/2004 7:41:34 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (I previously posted under Military Chick)
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To: geopyg
"We Will Offer The Amnesties First, Then The Executions"

This is a field goal. You want a Touchdown? Tell the guys who turn themselves in for amnesty that if they also provide info leading to the arrest and conviction of some of the bad guys who don't are eligible for half the rewards being offered to nonoffenders on the other most-wanted's heads.

Watch out for the flood of betrayals of the bad guys. Can you imagine how quick we'd bag Al-Zarqaui if his number 2 or 3 guy could get amnesty and $12.5 Mil?

15 posted on 07/12/2004 9:10:02 PM PDT by No Longer Free State
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

they need to be whooped up the side of the head... and then have it cut off.


16 posted on 07/13/2004 1:10:45 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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