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Social Conservatives Locked Out of GOP Prime Time
NewsMax ^ | 7/12/04 | Phil Brennan

Posted on 07/12/2004 6:12:22 PM PDT by wagglebee

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The most like-minded person with a featured speaking role is Senator Zell Miller, a Democrat from Georgia.

He drew fire from National Review's Washington editor Kate O'Beirne, who wrote, "When the only Reagan Republican to enjoy a prominent supporting role at the party's convention is a Democrat, the GOP has a serious identity problem."

I'm certain that Bush and Rove have a strategy behind all of this, I just hope they're right.

1 posted on 07/12/2004 6:12:23 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

Starting to sound like Demo whiners me thinks?


2 posted on 07/12/2004 6:15:31 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: wagglebee

Why preach to the choir?
We're trying to bring more folks to the table, and trotting out the base isn't going to do it. It will confirm the stereotype the liberals and the press have of Republicans. Why should we help them?


3 posted on 07/12/2004 6:17:11 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Smartaleck

Please explain.


4 posted on 07/12/2004 6:17:42 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

Look, we have the entire Republican Senate pushing for a constitutional ammendment and we have a President endorsing it and being very pro-life.

Let's let the party try to appeal at least a little to the moderates at the convention (aka: show).


5 posted on 07/12/2004 6:18:12 PM PDT by gilliam
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Maybe the demonrats will invite Gary to speak in Boston?


6 posted on 07/12/2004 6:19:01 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Remember 9-11 on 11-2 !)
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To: Smartaleck
Newsmax tends to whine a lot. I don't read it anymore.
7 posted on 07/12/2004 6:19:25 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: mabelkitty
We're trying to bring more folks to the table, and trotting out the base isn't going to do it. It will confirm the stereotype the liberals and the press have of Republicans. Why should we help them?

So, in your opinion, conservatism lacks the ability to "bring folks to the table"?

8 posted on 07/12/2004 6:20:24 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: wagglebee

Bush was the first president to address the annual Right to Life March on Washington. He is not embarrassed to speak publicly about his religious convictions.

I don't fault Rove on this one. Many religious conservatives are politically naive and easily taken to the cleaners by the media.

I DO fault Rove for sabotaging Bill Simon and favoring Arnold Schwarzenneger. I don't mind having Arnold talk at the convention, but he must be told in no uncertain terms to behave himself and not talk about Big Tents.

Notice that this story comes from The New York Times, which is trying--as usual--to split the Republicans. It's not often you find them interviewing Don Wildmon for an article. Wildmon should have known better than to let himself be inveigled into doing their dirty work.


9 posted on 07/12/2004 6:20:31 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: gilliam

I agree, but remember how Dole seemed to abandon the base and what happened.


10 posted on 07/12/2004 6:21:31 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: gilliam

Words vs. deeds.
I was going to type the same thing.
I'd rather have the work than the pretty talk.

He's definately making inroads into the black churches - this is why the venom from the NAACP just popped to nuclear proportions.


11 posted on 07/12/2004 6:21:56 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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I will be disappointed if at least one Republican social conservative is not given a prominent speaking slot. Its insulting not too, and it would be a missed opportunity to not give some early national exposure to some potential Presidential candidates in 2008 like Senator George Allen of Virginia, and Gov Bill Owens of Colorado. While it makes sense to give Pataki a slot because he is gov of NY, and Guiliani because he is a 9-11 national hero, and McCain because the media loves him, and Schwarzenegger because he is a small counterweight to the glamorati who support the Dems; the fact is that none of these could be the nominee in 2008. McCain will be too old, Arnold is foreign-born, and Pataki and Guiliani are too liberal on the social issues.


12 posted on 07/12/2004 6:22:01 PM PDT by Aetius
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You are much too logical.

Sick of the whining.

Rush was whining about this the other day.

We are a big party that needs every vote and I for one am so proud of Zell Miller's appearance at our party. Why in the world would anyone be insulting him as some have???????????

13 posted on 07/12/2004 6:23:39 PM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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I don't care who speaks or does not speak at the Republican Convention because I won't be watching it anyway, or the Democrats either. My vote is already signed, sealed and delivered. Both parties are going to use their conventions to woo the Undecided 5% who will tip the election. This doesn't concern me.


14 posted on 07/12/2004 6:23:49 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Aetius

I know its four years away, and a WHOLE LOT can change (a lot depend on who rises to the top in the second Bush administration), but I would not be surprised if Rudy Giuliani gets the nomination in 2008.


15 posted on 07/12/2004 6:24:56 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: NittanyLion

No, honey, not conservtism - just the messengers. The non-telegenic messengers can't seem to get the ideals out during non-election years, so I don't trust them to get it out during prime time. I'd rather the leftists screeds be shown as lies and prove we are more than the hateful idiots we are constantly being portrayed.
Get people interested, and they'll go in search of more information all by themselves. Spoon feed them and we lose them the first time they are challenged.


16 posted on 07/12/2004 6:25:36 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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"I'm certain that Bush and Rove have a strategy behind all of this, I just hope they're right."

Like their great strategy of looking the other way while millions of illegal aliens enter the country hoping that they will eventually vote Republican?

17 posted on 07/12/2004 6:26:39 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: wagglebee

These conventions are shows and maybe it makes sense to just trust those who have been delegated the duty of designing the show. If it succeeds, everyone will be happy. If it bombs, well, they won't be asked again. ;-)


18 posted on 07/12/2004 6:27:10 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: OldFriend

Easy. There is a thread on this very plot:

Kerry looking to take advantage of split in Republican base.

Don't know how he plans that, but there is a plot afoot, that's for sure.


19 posted on 07/12/2004 6:27:51 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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"Why preach to the choir?"

Because the choir is uncertain as to whether George Bush still wants to be a member.

20 posted on 07/12/2004 6:28:14 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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