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To: AngieGal

So many assertions, so little evidence. This business of blaming the decline of marriage in the Scandanavian Countries and The Netherlands on gay marriage is particularly ludicrous, as a matter of causation. Dobson merely asserting it did, won't cut it. Of course, there is an issue vis a vis entitlement programs that must be addressed, including the gaming of the system.


10 posted on 07/12/2004 3:42:55 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie; annyokie; The Ghost of FReepers Past; eloopd1959

Wake up and read about what is coming to your kid's classroom...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/964417/posts


20 posted on 07/12/2004 4:02:15 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Torie
So many assertions, so little evidence

Advocating various sexual fetishes as "normal, sane behavior" will completely destroy any type of humanity we have left. The homosexual diseases would become so bad, our health care system couldn't sustain it.
Homosexuality has always been considered a mental illness, and should be treated as such. If America wants to survive, the hoards of sewer swimmers need to be given some kind of psychiatric aid - not a valid "marriage" licenses. Sheesh!.

22 posted on 07/12/2004 4:09:19 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Torie
This business of blaming the decline of marriage in the Scandanavian Countries and The Netherlands on gay marriage is particularly ludicrous, as a matter of causation.

I have seen many people on this forum make similar statements, but I haven't seen any of them back it up. Go on, be the first. Explain why marriage is dying in Scandinavia and the Netherlands. For a bonus, explain why the assaults against free speech and worship that occurred in Sweden and Canada post-gayification won't happen here.

Before supporting (or even failing to oppose) gay marriage, you might want to check these out:

Results of gay marriage in Scandinavia.

Results of gay marriage in Holland

Where it will lead sociologically.

More on Holland (and why contraception, secularization, etc. aren't the reason for the European problems)

Let's be nice, live-and-let-live libertarian types, just like in Canada.
(In Sweden and Canada gay activists got parts of the Bible made "illegal." Do we want to encourage them in the USA?)

Why libertarians should stand up against gay marriage.

Anything else is covered here.

45 posted on 07/12/2004 4:38:57 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: Torie

It's a continuum. Sexual libertinism and the destruction of moral absolutes is what is finishing off western civilization. If and when homosexual "marriage" and the elimination of the age of consent (it's in the chute) are legalized (if!), then it will be buh-bye civilized human society and hellooo barbarian totalitarianism!


89 posted on 07/12/2004 6:43:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("You're possibly the most ignorant, belligerent, and loathesome poster on FR currently." - tdadams)
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To: Torie

Correct, there is little evidence of the effect homosexual unions have on developing children, because the unions are an anomaly.

Yet, on the contrary, study after study has come to the conclusion that children do best being raised in a home where their biological mother and father are married to each other. Children raised in such a home are less likely to kill themselves, drop out of school, abuse alcohol and drugs, be promiscuous or participate in illegal activities.

We know what works! Monogamous marriage between a man and a woman produces better citizens. This should be encouraged, not made a mockery of.

Kids are not experiments. I don't think it is fair to force them to participate in social experimentation!

Homosexuals are not able to reproduce, since it takes both sexes to do so. It is not fair for children to be placed in a home with two same sex sexual partners, in a political attempt to engineer social change in our society.

If the so-called homosexual already has children, then I guess the argument that their "oreintation" is "normal for them"; and "inborn"; does not apply, as they were able to have natural sex....


114 posted on 07/15/2004 2:04:04 PM PDT by tuckrdout (Grant Teri Schindler (Schiavo) her wish: A DIVORCE!)
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To: Torie; annyokie
"So many assertions, so little evidence...Dobson merely asserting it did, won't cut it."

Connecting the dots won't get much easier...

Are some of you secular humanist "conservatives" content to have the Visgoths banging at your front door?

132 posted on 07/15/2004 9:32:25 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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