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To: abnegation

The Dem strategy is obvious. They are going to oppose iyt, but solely on the basis of the argument that it is wrong to monkey with the Constitution...and totally igore the underlying issue..


20 posted on 07/12/2004 10:42:58 AM PDT by ken5050 (We've looked for WMD in Iraq for LESS time than Hillary looked for the Rose Law firm billing records)
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To: ken5050

A totally phony argument which a lot of gutless Republicans will buy into also. If this issue where brought to the vote of the American people, it would pass by a landslide. Here, its our elected representatives who for once, are out of touch with public opinion.


28 posted on 07/12/2004 10:50:03 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ken5050
The Dem strategy is obvious. They are going to oppose iyt, but solely on the basis of the argument that it is wrong to monkey with the Constitution...and totally igore the underlying issue...

Well...and they're right sad to say. Democrats use the truth only when its convienent for them. This is a waste of time and taxpayer money. You put this amendment in and it'll set a nasty precedent, wherein any group that can muster enough clout can use the Constitution as a blunt object with which to bludgeon their opponents.

I believe all the emotion and fervor over this issue is futile in todays America. I think it starts at the beginnings of this country. We began this thing we called America and drafted a Constitution as a Protestant Christian nation, not only that, but sola Scriptura and faith alone Protestants. It is even stated in the writings of our founding fathers that (paraphrase) "our republic will fail without the basic Christian morality of men". Bottom line...we don't have that anymore...we just don't. Sola Scriptura and faith alone Christians (really all Christians) are not the same now as they were in the 1700's, and the standard of morality in this country is not the same as it was in the 17th, 18th, or 19th centuries. Its just fact...over time our republic (if we even have one anymore) has morphed into more of a secular, liberal democracy. Thank the New Deal socialists for that, but it may have started earlier.

Christians and CINO's are to blame as well. IMHO I believe it started with the general acceptance (in most churches) of birth control. I mean, OTC birth control, easy divorce, abortion, and homosexuality are all things (from a Christian point of view) where people disrespect life, play God, or pervert/misuse sex. The "acceptance" of homosexual behavior is only a result of past compromises of what we traditionally knew as morality.

We should pretty much take a "pro-Constitutional" view of homosexuality. Simply because there is not a damn thing we can do to legislate human behavior in the bedroom. People will continue to call evil good and good evil; people will go on breaking God's law (whatever brand or flavor of God you adhere to). People will continue to sin, whether its drugs, cheating on your wife, engaging in homosexual behavior, lying, cheating; sin is sin. We have the power as citizens of this country to change that with our vote, but I don't think that we want government legislating morality...its too late for that. I think we've fallen too low down that slippery slope, plus not counting conservatives here on FR and generally-average Joe Americans; there's not enough people that give-a-$hit to make a un-Constitutional difference anyway. I resigned myself to raising my children up to the best of my ability, and to try to shelter them from the things that my wife and I know are not good for them...that and trying to live a Christ-like life is all I can do, and, IMHO is all anyone can do.

72 posted on 07/12/2004 11:12:25 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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