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Defense of Marriage Amendment debate on CSPAN2 LIVE THREAD
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Posted on 07/12/2004 10:26:34 AM PDT by abnegation

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To: Mo1; maica
You just know the Dems don't want to go on record with this vote

Going on record is very powerful. It is one thing that the 2 Johns cannot deny today.

I remember during the hearings on illegal campaign contributions / nuclear secrets / Chinese connections that person after person sent a note from their lawyers saying that they would invoke their fifth amendment rights not to testify. The stupid Republicans must have valued a long lunch over the powerful video and pictures of all those people taking the fifth. They should have made every one of them come to the Senate and personally state their refusal to testify. I think that more than 50 fled the country in addition to the dozens who pleaded the fifth. Most people in the country do not even know about those entire, close to treasonous, events. Pictures get through to people.

41 posted on 07/12/2004 11:00:05 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: South40

Nearly a decade after 86 Senators voted for the Defense Of Marriage Act, it can't pass? I'll be happy if it gets a majority as it ought. If it doesn't it says more about our politicians than it does about where the American people stand.


42 posted on 07/12/2004 11:00:40 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: teletech

The vast majority of the country thought it was right that blacks and whites be segregated in the 1950s.

So by your logic, we should have maintained Jim Crow laws.


43 posted on 07/12/2004 11:01:26 AM PDT by johnfrink
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To: johnfrink

For someone who views this as "crap" and a "waste of time" you sure are weighing in on it. Perhaps your time would be better served to go to a thread at DU where they are discussing "WOT, the economy and health care".


44 posted on 07/12/2004 11:01:39 AM PDT by abnegation (If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness TR)
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To: goldstategop

Already preparing to make both of WV's RAT Senator's pay for their certain votes against this eminently sensible and necessary Amendment.


45 posted on 07/12/2004 11:02:35 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: abnegation
Santorum is RIPPING people right now---not people who believe that gay marriage should be legal, but rather legislators who say that legalizing gay marriage is wrong, but who sit on their hands and refuse to do anything about it.

Bravo.

Feinstein is next. Sigh.

46 posted on 07/12/2004 11:03:13 AM PDT by mcg1969
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To: johnfrink

The real problem is precisely the one you allude. It isn't about what gay people do. Its the fact that from the Left, marriage and the family have been weakened to the point where it makes more sense to live together than to be married. Gays and lesbians have rights too but the right to redefine the meaning of marriage for the rest of society isn't among them.


47 posted on 07/12/2004 11:03:18 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: OXENinFLA
Thanks for the ping
...listening to the debate
48 posted on 07/12/2004 11:03:21 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: South40

So, if it can't pass then forget doing it?

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt


49 posted on 07/12/2004 11:03:41 AM PDT by abnegation (If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness TR)
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To: johnfrink; Poohbah; dighton; mhking

Conn, sonar, possible troll contact, bearing 170...


50 posted on 07/12/2004 11:03:49 AM PDT by hchutch ("Go ahead. Leave early and beat the traffic. The Milwaukee Brewers dare you." - MLB.com 5/11/04)
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To: johnfrink

Marriage has nothing to do with racism and you know it.


51 posted on 07/12/2004 11:04:16 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: johnfrink

Your equation of sexual deviancy with skin color is offensive to thinking people of color.


52 posted on 07/12/2004 11:05:01 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: johnfrink; Poohbah; dighton; mhking

TURKEY TROTS ON WATER RR WHERE IS THE ZOT RR THE WORLD WONDERS


53 posted on 07/12/2004 11:05:36 AM PDT by hchutch ("Go ahead. Leave early and beat the traffic. The Milwaukee Brewers dare you." - MLB.com 5/11/04)
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To: abnegation

Most of the souls in the Congress are timid people who run for cover in the tall grass rather than take a stand on the great issues of the day.


54 posted on 07/12/2004 11:05:43 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: hchutch

Multiple inbound trolls bearing 020, VAMPIRE VAMPIRE VAMPIRE!


55 posted on 07/12/2004 11:06:31 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: goldstategop

AKA Spineless bestids.


56 posted on 07/12/2004 11:07:29 AM PDT by abnegation (If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness TR)
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To: johnfrink
Would it be too much of an insult to say that anyone who supports this amendment is a mindless buffoon?

Hey as long as you're descending into the mud-pit, I think it's fair to say that anyone who opposes this amendment is a mentally deranged cultural terrorist.
57 posted on 07/12/2004 11:08:01 AM PDT by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment, NOW!)
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To: johnfrink
Would it be too much of an insult to say that anyone who supports this amendment is a mindless buffoon?

Nah, it would simply be false.

58 posted on 07/12/2004 11:08:53 AM PDT by mcg1969
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To: Mo1
Swinestine up..................blah blah blah
59 posted on 07/12/2004 11:08:58 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: abnegation
CALL YOUR SENATORS
60 posted on 07/12/2004 11:09:23 AM PDT by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment, NOW!)
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