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1 posted on 07/12/2004 7:22:47 AM PDT by veronica
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Then there was this editorial in today's Richmond Times Dipatch Link

The page isn't formatted properly, but it's at the end of the page.

2 posted on 07/12/2004 7:30:48 AM PDT by P8riot (A gun is just a substitute for a penis, so when attacked by a mugger one should pull out a..........)
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And it is not the option of daintily applying military power as we have since 1991. Killing in large numbers is not enough to defeat our Muslim foes. With killing must come a Sherman-like razing of infrastructure.

I haven't read the book, but distinctly recall that in all the recent news discussions and book reviews, only one mentioned the central thesis of Imperial Hubris: that Islam is the foe and that it must be defeated without mercy.

Virtually every other news reference focused entirely "Iraq as a diversion", while ignoring the author's apparant point that Iraq is a diversion from ther business of crushing Islam entirely.

Obviously the Pak reviewer above didn't have too much trouble grasping that point.

3 posted on 07/12/2004 8:02:15 AM PDT by angkor
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I agree we should get toughre with Islam, but that doesn't appear to be the message of this article.

We ARE at war with Islam. We should do something about Muslims in the United States, stop all future immigration from Islamic Countriesm and deport all Muslims here in America who are non-citizens.

Those Muslims living here who ARE American citizens should be carefully scrutinized by national and lcoal security agencies and Islamic places of worship and Islamic schools and charities should be closely watched and any which express any Anti-American sentiments should be put out of business and their leaders arrested.

Using our present methods of fighting, we would never have won WW2.


5 posted on 07/12/2004 9:28:20 AM PDT by ZULU
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the "superb combat performance" of al Qaeda and al Qaeda-trained units against US-led forces

[ BILL COSBY ] Riiigggghhht. [ /BILL COSBY ]

6 posted on 07/12/2004 9:33:36 AM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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He argues that the Islamic world is not so much offended by the American democratic system of politics as Washington's actions and policies.... He maintains that Muslims are offended by the following policies: ... US support for apostate, corrupt and tyrannical Muslim governments.

Er, which is it? Do they hate us for supporting democracy, or for supporting tyranny?

I just don't buy the notion that the hatred of the Wahabiwackjobs is driven by anything other than a realization (whether they can articulate it clearly or not) that Western culture is eroding the institutions that support their power and wealth.

7 posted on 07/12/2004 9:41:10 AM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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“Those who failed to bring peace to Afghanistan after 1992 are now repeating their failure by scripting government affairs and constitution-making in Kabul to portray the birth of Western-style democracy, religious tolerance, and women’s rights - all anathema to Afghan political and tribal culture and none of which has more than a small, unarmed constituency,” he writes.

What are we supposed to do? Pick the strongest warlord and give him absolute power? We are trying to build institutions that withstand, transcend and transform the Afghan political and tribal culture. Yes, it's hard, but other alternatives would just end up bringing the Taliban back, and stronger than ever.

8 posted on 07/12/2004 9:45:31 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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bump for later reading!


10 posted on 07/12/2004 10:11:42 AM PDT by F-117A
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Not only do we have the current crop of terrorists to deal with, but the enemy rapidly trains the next generation. There's so many of them, and so few of us.

Unless we teach them we absolutely can't be messed with, we're through. No diplomacy, no correctness, just wipe them out and start with a clean slate. For too long they've terrorized the world, and it's more than time to put a stop to it.


13 posted on 07/12/2004 10:29:19 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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With killing must come a Sherman-like razing of infrastructure.



Excellent. Exactly. Muslims must bear responsibility of the action of their brethern.

Of the tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of Muslim clergy on this planet, not one, has issued a fatwah against Osama.


14 posted on 07/12/2004 11:10:41 AM PDT by TomasUSMC
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