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To: churchillbuff; PhiKapMom
I've heard from the media that there were people "embarrassed" by PJB's speech in 92. Never met a Republican or conservative in the flesh who was "embarrassed" by the speech, though. You're one unique individual if you were really "embarrassed" - and if you're really a "conservative." The polls showed a hike in support for the GOP right after the speech, so I think a lot of the dumping on the speech is media fantasy. For you to be pushing the liberal media line makes me suspect you're no conservative.

BS; I've never met one that WASN"T horrified by it. You're a great one to be telling people they're not conservatives.

And I don't believe one word you said about support for the GOP going up after that speech; if that were so, the GOP wouldn't have run like hell from Pat Buchanan.

It was THE nastiest, most mean-spirited, condescending speech I have ever heard.

33 posted on 07/12/2004 9:51:05 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Howlin
BS; I've never met one that WASN"T horrified by it. You're a great one to be telling people they're not conservatives.
And I don't believe one word you said about support for the GOP going up after that speech; if that were so, the GOP wouldn't have run like hell from Pat Buchanan.
It was THE nastiest, most mean-spirited, condescending speech I have ever heard.

Having just read it I don't see what's so "horriffying". It's an excellent conservative speech. And you are most likely a democrat or at best a RINO.

It's nice that you don't believe one word about support going up after that speech but the polls showed otherwise. But if you're a good liberal, you won't let the facts get in the way of your " beliefs".

42 posted on 07/13/2004 8:13:08 AM PDT by TradicalRC (From big government conservatives, good Lord deliver us.)
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To: Howlin
It was THE nastiest, most mean-spirited, condescending speech I have ever heard.

You've just revealed to me and the FR world that, while you're vociferously in favor the war in Iraq, you're no conservative. Being pro-Iraq-war certainly isn't a conservative litmus test; Kerry is for the war, too; so is Hilary. But real conservatives agree that there's a culture war in this country and that the ACLU, etc is trying to tear down our institutions. That's what PJB said - and conservative applauded. Hilary - and you - didn't.

43 posted on 07/13/2004 8:25:26 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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