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NYC's Weekend Homicide Count Spikes Sharply
WABC ^ | 7/11/04 | Jeff Rossen

Posted on 07/11/2004 10:27:52 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo

(New York-WABC, July 11, 2004) — This weekend, 10 people were killed -- all from shootings.

It was such an unusual spike in crime, Commissioner Ray Kelly felt compelled to address it on Sunday -- calling it "exceptional" -- especially since the murder rate is down city-wide.

It was crime scene after crime scene and the death toll kept rising. In New York City, 10 people were shot and killed since Friday night. Some residents blamed it on the warm weather, but Mayor Bloomberg has another theory.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg, New York City: "There's too many guns on the street. And people use guns. Guns have one purpose, it is to kill people. There is no reason to have a gun."

This rash of gun violence spans four of the five boroughs, from a building in the West Village were one man was shot and killed to Coney Island where three people were shot, one fatal. Also, hit, the Lower East Side; Woodside, Queens; Flatbush and Bay Ridge, Brooklyn; and the Concourse section of the Bronx. The shootings are not connected, but in a way, as a society, they are all connected.

One man Eyewitness News spoke to said he thinks the problem is bigger than just gun control. He says society has to look into what makes these people violent.

As the shootings piled up, this weekend the NYPD went on offensive, look at the numbers, they said, the crime is down citywide. At this time last year, 307 murder, so far, this year, 273, shootings, 742 by this time last year, as of July 4th, this year, 671.

Of all of the shootings this weekend, police have made one arrest so far in one of the case. They are still investigating the others. And as a side note, there has been more violence in New York City today. In Brooklyn, a deadly stabbing, where someone was killed and there has just been another shooting there as well.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloomberg; crimerate; hopolophobe; newyorkcity; nyc; onetermmayor; rino
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1 posted on 07/11/2004 10:27:52 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: *bang_list

Bloomy spewing the same old song and dance.


2 posted on 07/11/2004 10:28:27 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Someday the entire country of Iraq will reach these levels. I wonder which one is the war zone.


3 posted on 07/11/2004 10:29:12 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Mayor Michael Bloomberg, New York City: "There's too many guns on the street. And people use guns. Guns have one purpose, it is to kill people. There is no reason to have a gun."
Bloomberg always has a simple answer. You can bet his security is armed.
4 posted on 07/11/2004 10:30:45 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Mr. Mojo
"One man Eyewitness News spoke to said he thinks the problem is bigger than just gun control. He says society has to look into what makes these people violent.
Who is this friggin' anonymous genius? We have to get him to Washington right away.
5 posted on 07/11/2004 10:32:29 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Mr. Mojo
He should have said "there are too many BAD GUYS with guns.All law abiding citizens should arm themselves immediately."
6 posted on 07/11/2004 10:33:38 PM PDT by novacation
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To: Mr. Mojo

Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Guns are just the instrument. Place a few restrictions on gun control, stiffly prosecute the offenders, bypass a few of the constitutional rights of the criminals and some progress can be made. Not sure any of this will ever happen as long as the ACLU is around.


7 posted on 07/11/2004 10:34:40 PM PDT by conshack
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To: Mr. Mojo

So, all in all, it's safer in Iraq than NY City.


8 posted on 07/11/2004 10:37:10 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Murderers and every other kind of thug are roaming the streets and "there is no reason to have gun".I'm sure he is well protected by people with guns.What a jerk.


9 posted on 07/11/2004 10:37:19 PM PDT by novacation
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To: Mr. Mojo

More like there's too many guns on the street, and not enough guns in peoples homes, purses, and autmobiles.


10 posted on 07/11/2004 10:39:41 PM PDT by Oblongata
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To: novacation
10 people were shot and killed since Friday night.

Do we have to ask how many were killed in self-defense, suicide, or through lawful police enforcement action?
11 posted on 07/11/2004 10:42:40 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Whoah man, BIG TIME RINO ALERT!!!


12 posted on 07/11/2004 10:44:50 PM PDT by thoughtomator (End the imperialist moo slime colonization of the West!)
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To: Richard Kimball

We take comfort in the fact that at least we're not Detroit.


13 posted on 07/11/2004 10:45:31 PM PDT by thoughtomator (End the imperialist moo slime colonization of the West!)
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To: thoughtomator

LOL... seriously though he's a bit soft with the police and soft on guns. Not a good combo.


14 posted on 07/11/2004 10:47:45 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Mr. Mojo
Within the last year,there was an article posted on FR that stated the number of firearms confiscated in NY City.

I thought the number was almost unbelievably low considering the "stories" we read of the City being flooded with illegal guns.

15 posted on 07/11/2004 10:50:21 PM PDT by Free Trapper (Because we ate the green mammals first!)
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New York City: Outlawing Self-Defense
By Michael Tremoglie
FrontPageMagazine.com | June 27, 2003

As a cop, I was taught that deadly force is permitted to protect one’s own life or the lives of others. That simple precept of justice seems to have been forgotten by King’s County (Brooklyn) District Attorney Charles Hynes.

Hynes conducted not a prosecution, but a persecution, of Ronald Dixon - a man who acted within the tenets of the law to protect his family from a criminal.

Awakened in the middle of the night by a burglar Dixon did the only thing he could do: He shot him with a legally purchased a handgun. However, that firearm was legally purchased in Florida. Dixon was in the process of having it registered in New York when the incident occurred. He had paid $500 to a firm to have it registered in New York, where gun laws have a Byzantine complexity. The firm subsequently went bankrupt and the application was not completed. Because it was not yet registered in New York State, technically Dixon possessed the gun illegally.

The facts of the case are not in dispute. Hynes has acknowledged this:

“We’re not disputing that Mr. Dixon had a right to shoot the person who broke into his house. But he had no right to have that gun.”

Regardless of the danger Dixon’s family faced, DA Hynes wants is to send this Navy veteran and father of two, who has never before been had a single encounter with the law, to jail -- the same jail, Rikers Island, as the burglar who robbed him! The burglar has nineteen prior arrests for criminal trespassing, burglary, and attempted assault. (Ironically, for the burglar’s first conviction he received probation). Ron Dixon, a law-abiding citizen, is going to jail because he tried to protect his family from this burglar.

DA Hynes has discretion as to whether to prosecute a case or not. Rather than save the taxpayers money – and a veteran’s family untold trauma – Hynes threatened Dixon with a lengthy prison sentence if he did not accept a plea bargain. Ron Dixon will still spend three days in jail, but the conviction will not appear on his record. He will, thankfully, still be able to vote and own a firearm. But why should such a citizen be harassed with three days confinement for preserving his family's life?

Contrast Hynes’ attitude in this case with a less politically correct target: a mother who scalded her four-year-old child to death. In that case, Hynes declined prosecution altogether, instead returning the mother’s remaining children to her loving custody.

Nor was this the first instance of Hynes combining fatuity and fanaticism with gun-laws. Three years ago, he authored a gun purchase program for his district in Brooklyn. The program offered $250 for each gun citizens would turn into the authorities. It was an immediate success-which was no shock to anyone who knew anything about guns. The state was offering more money for used handguns than new ones cost in most southern states. Hynes cohort in this program, Senator Schumer, issued a report that indicated most guns used in crimes in New York City were purchased in Mississippi and Texas. No wonder they must have been bringing in guns by the thousands to be sold.[1]

Hynes seems to be driven by his ideology more than the law and common sense. Hynes was once quoted as saying that “If you’ve got one person sitting in jail that shouldn’t be there, the system has done a terrible thing.” [2] Does this not apply to Ron Dixon? I learned another thing as a cop: “It is better to be tried by twelve than carried by six.” Dixon should have opted for trial. I doubt that any twelve Brooklyn citizens are as delusional as the Brooklyn DA. Dixon would never have been convicted.

This entire case recalls the case of poor Tony Martin, a middle-aged British man sentenced to prison for accidentally shooting an intruder in self-defense, then denied parole on the grounds that he represented "a threat to burglars."

The actions of Charles Hynes are unconscionable. This injustice can only be remedied - and must be remedied immediately - by New York Governor George Pataki. If ever there was a case that shouted for a pardon from the governor, this is it.

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16 posted on 07/11/2004 10:53:35 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: cyborg
A very disturbing article.

Too bad the powers that be don't feel citizens of NY can be trusted with their rights.I know I won't be visiting NY.

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Sure wish somebody would offer $250 per gun in my parts.I'd be rich and could upgrade some less valuable stuff. :)

17 posted on 07/11/2004 11:06:04 PM PDT by Free Trapper (Because we ate the green mammals first!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

If you had a negative spike one weekend, it doesn't necessarily mean you suddenly became more adept at stopping crime. If you have random acts of violence, you will occasionally see spikes like this. The important thing to look for is a trend in the data and don't be misled by the solitary spikes in the trend. I would imagine if you looked at any crime, rape, aggravated assault, simple burglary, etc, there will be spikes to be found as well.


18 posted on 07/11/2004 11:09:07 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: NYC GOP Chick

For your ping list?


19 posted on 07/11/2004 11:10:51 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: Richard Kimball
So, all in all, it's safer in Iraq than NY City.

Could be..this was from the article

...the crime is down citywide. At this time last year, 307 murder, so far, this year, 273, shootings, 742 by this time last year, as of July 4th, this year, 671.

20 posted on 07/11/2004 11:17:38 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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