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Why I filmed abortion
The Age ^
| July 11, 2004
| Julia Black
Posted on 07/11/2004 1:00:23 PM PDT by Lorianne
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posted on
07/11/2004 1:00:23 PM PDT
by
Lorianne
To: Lorianne
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posted on
07/11/2004 1:09:02 PM PDT
by
Wings-n-Wind
(The answers are out there; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions)
To: cpforlife.org
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posted on
07/11/2004 1:09:11 PM PDT
by
jla
(http://www.ronaldreaganmemorial.com/memorial_fund.asp)
To: Lorianne
Interesting attitude. Will it be shown on PBS?
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posted on
07/11/2004 1:09:12 PM PDT
by
expatpat
To: Lorianne
She chose to videotape the abortion of a 4 week child, yet most abortions are done at 10 weeks.
How "honest" of her.
To: Lorianne
Over the years, on various medical documentary shows, I think I've watched doctors perform open-heart surgery, organ transplants, hip replacements, nose jobs, boob jobs, skin grafts, eye surgery...you name it. Yet I've never seen an abortion televised. Now why is that? If abortion is just another "safe medical procedure" why aren't depictions of it ever included among all the other medical scenes routinely broadcast into our homes?
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posted on
07/11/2004 1:20:09 PM PDT
by
dagnabbit
(Islamic Immigration is the West's Suicide)
To: Lorianne; Wings-n-Wind
When I became pregnant at 21, the 1967 Act stated that to end my pregnancy I had to prove to two doctors that it presented a threat to my physical or mental health, posed a risk to my life, or that my foetus had serious abnormalities. So which lie did she tell, among all her other lies?
To: Lorianne
Julia Black is an independent filmmaker, who lives with her partner and daughter
Partner? What does that mean? Business partner? Someone to split the rent? Lover? Friend?
I'm wondering why she sees the need to delve into the moral issues surrounding abortion, when she still seems to believe the moral issue is irrelevant to having the choice to kill a baby when it's inconvenient.
They love to bring up the 'back alley' abortions, or shame, or whatever, without being honest about it. Which is, it is ALWAYS a CHOICE between life and death, between responsibility and convenience. She sounds to me like someone going to alot of trouble to justify her actions and assuage her guilt.
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posted on
07/11/2004 1:21:40 PM PDT
by
visualops
(Let's win another one for the Gipper, and donate to FR too!!.)
To: Lorianne

Dear Lorraine, The argument about back street abortions is a lie. Never in all of history has there ever been as many deaths because of back street or back alley ,coat hanger abortions compared to How many have taken place since Roe vs Wade. If there had been it would have been front page news every day. Come to think of it the media would have hidden it! Just my 2¢
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posted on
07/11/2004 1:26:11 PM PDT
by
LuigiBasco
(It's past time to restart The Crusades.)
To: Lorianne
What she really wants to do is engage with her murdered baby to come to terms with her crime. But she still can't face it directly.
I too want to engage with the foetus over abortion.
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posted on
07/11/2004 1:26:40 PM PDT
by
DManA
To: MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
"My Foetus screens on the ABC's Compass program on Sunday, August 8."
Does anyone know about this "Compass program" ? Is it available in the US?
Please let me know if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.
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posted on
07/11/2004 1:34:33 PM PDT
by
cpforlife.org
(Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
To: Lorianne
Maybe yall are seeing something here that I'm not but I wasn't impressed with her story. So she listens to both sides. She came across as cold to me. I do agree that these procedures need to be shown though, using the 3-4D ultrasounds available.
To: Lorianne
".....we all wished this wasn't something that existed, but sometimes we found ourselves in a situation where it was necessary."
Pretty chilling.
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posted on
07/11/2004 1:57:06 PM PDT
by
TalBlack
("Tal, no song means anything without someone else....")
And the proof that she's STILL "cold" is that after filming an abortion, and including images of fetuses at different ages, she's STILL in favor of abortion.
"The foetus has been hijacked by the anti-abortion groups"
What an odd mind-set she has.
"As someone who was, and still is, pro-choice, I too want to engage with the foetus over abortion."
Bzzt! Too late. It's dead! No chance to engage with it now or ever.
It just occurred to me, if anti-abortion protesters hold up signs with pictures of dead fetuses on them, as a symbol of what's bad - the pro-abortion people should hold up signs with pictures of dead fetuses on them, as a symbol of what's good (to them). Do they have the guts to do this?
To: jla
Thanks for the fyi
This woman's conscience is grossly malformed.
The film seems top be a vehicle to further desensitize the masses into a more complete acceptance of abortion--to remove the stigma so more killings occur more easily. Take John F. Kerry's recent fertilizer flipping: He says he believes life begins at conception and does not like abortion personally but he fully supports women who want to have them including late term partial birth abortions on healthy children who would easily survive if birthed.
For many abortion lovers this film will further the next stage--killing unwanted children after birth. Princeton "Bioethics" professor Peter Singer promotes killing children up to several months after birth "for good reasons"
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posted on
07/11/2004 2:01:29 PM PDT
by
cpforlife.org
(Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
To: cpforlife.org
I'm glad you posted. Something about this woman's
revelation bothered me too.
She states:
"The foetus has been hijacked by the anti-abortion groups, forcing the pro-choice movement into defending the woman`s right to choose."
What the pro-lifers do is point out and emphasize the facts regarding abortion, this woman wants people to equate this with `hijacking` the issue?
She also uses the ubiquitous liberal ploy of placing the blame for abortions on pro-lifers and not the women and abortionists who carry out the killings. Another method used by those pro-abortion Leftists who eschew responsibility and always looks to blame other people and/or circumstances.
They also do their best to get young women to accept this false and dishonest premise to relieve any guilt they carry with them.
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posted on
07/11/2004 2:19:12 PM PDT
by
jla
(http://www.ronaldreaganmemorial.com/memorial_fund.asp)
To: Lorianne
How could I, or anyone else, make a moral judgement about whether a late abortion is right or wrong without knowing the circumstances that led to that woman ending her pregnancy? It isn't about circumstances.
It's about the diiffernce between right & wrong, life & death.
To: visualops
They love to bring up the 'back alley' abortions, or shame, or whatever, without being honest about it. Which is, it is ALWAYS a CHOICE between life and death, between responsibility and convenience.Exactly. My brother and his wife just welcomed the most beautiful little girl into their lives through the miracle of adoption. They waited many long years for her, and not a day goes by when a prayer of thanks is said for a young woman who understood and chose LIFE.
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posted on
07/11/2004 2:28:23 PM PDT
by
Mygirlsmom
("Those people who are not governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." William Penn)
To: Lorianne
I have always felt the argument about the injuries and deaths associated with back-street abortions, and coat hangers, etc., does not hold water. Yes, back in the 50's
there was shame put on a girl for getting pregnant, and often her family wanted to do this to "hush it up". Some girls got so-called "back alley" abortions to avoid having their parents find out. The prevailing attitudes of today, makes that argument false, as there are many "single Moms" and to most liberal thinking there is no shame in "unwed Motherhood." These same girls/women who would have had abortions to avoid the consequences of their actions in the past can now freely keep the child or give it up for adoption. There is no stigma today placed on children born of unmarried parents. It still, to me anyway, comes down to a convenient form of birth control today.
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posted on
07/11/2004 3:00:14 PM PDT
by
tinlady
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