Andrew Sullivan: Skywalker Edwards v Darth Vader Cheney

The Sunday Times ^ | July 11, 2004 | Andrew Sullivan

[altura]

Good casting.

[Senator_Blutarski]

Now take a look at Dick Cheney’s old congressional record. He was the sole representative from Wyoming for several years in the 1980s and his voting record was easily one of the most arch-conservative in Congress. He voted against sanctions on South Africa and Aids research. He voted against every measure to control gun sales. He also opposed a bill to let government employees donate their holidays or sick leave to other workers with an illness or family emergency. There wasn’t a defence programme he didn’t like or a tax cut he didn’t vote for.

What's not to like? He forgot to mention that Lynn Cheney is both pretty and devoutly conservative.

[Dark Knight]

>>Cheney was always a federalist and has a libertarian, western streak in him.<<

I just don't get the libertarian/federalist connection!

DK

[longtermmemmory]

Sulivan has gone to the dark side since Bush has openly stated he would support FMA.

The homosexual sulivan cares about nothing but his recreational sex.

[Tamzee]

There is no way Edwards will have a grasp of world affairs, or anything else for that matter, the way Cheney will.

Exactly my thoughts. Edwards may be a glib speaker but he won't have near the knowledge to pull info out of the air like Cheney does.

Edwards is all frosting and no cake, and will like melt into a greasy ooze under the debate lights.

[not2worry]

I haven't seen too many Southern men wearing $2500 custom made suits and shirts. Edwards isn't even in touch with his one constituents.

And how can a guy choose a running mate he really doesn't like, but rather chooses one that will get the most votes? But then, I guess that's Kerry's MO.....the way he relates to the "wife" leads me to believe his motivation is strictly me, me, me.

And one last thing! How long has Tereza been in the USA? Can't she drop the droll accent, I'm not impressed!

[kms61]

The debates aren't actual debates, they're for the most part scripted soundbites. Neither Bush, Kerry, Cheney, nor Edwards will make mincemeat of his opponent. Unless one of the candidates has a complete meltdown on camera, which I don't anticipate happening, nobody's mind is going to be changed.

Supporters of one candidate will think he won. Vice versa for supporters of the other candidate, and the polls will continue within a few points of each other all the way to election day.

[Choose Ye This Day]

I'm with you 100%. I don't know where people get this cockamamie notion that Pretty Boy is going to have VP Cheney on the rehetorical ropes during a debate. In the 2000 campaign, every time I heard Cheney give an interview, he absolutely commanded attention and respect with his knowledge of the facts, his reason, his logic, his precision, and that tough-as-nails, cool and confident tone of voice.

Edwards is toast.

[dasein64]

I see Chaney as John Wayne vs city slicker Edwards. I watched Edwards on TV today doing the speechifying thing and he didn't know when to stop. Kerry was watching his performance like a proud daddy. The VP debate should be quite a crowd pleaser. Chaney will talk intelligently to the audience and Edwards will perform for the jury. Let the games begin.

[lainde]

bttt

[Skywalk]

That remains one of the most beautiful pictures of Vader, or any movie character. The only other one that compares is Vader in the Carbonite Chamber with the orange light and gas wreathing his massive frame in ESB.

[WOSG]

yeah, but which part of his body is doing the thinking for him...

All that John-John hugging is to nail down a particular constituency?!?

[bootless]

Thanks for the laugh. Darth was my favorite character. :-) And Obi Wan.

[smonk]

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[Free_at_last_-2001]

Does this mean Dick Cheney is John Edwards's father? - LOL!

[alnick]

Cheney, the bald, dour, snarling vice-president whose most recent public pronouncement was to tell a leading Democratic senator to “go f*** yourself”.

He's bald, true, but not dour, and he only snarls at those who need to be snarled at. And he most certainly did NOT publicly tell anyone to, ahem, go entertain himself. The comment to Leahy was a private one.

[alnick]

That is why they keep propogating this notion that he is a negative for Bush and should be dropped from the ticket. They have been pushing that crap almost from the beginning.

I heard yesterday that Cheney said that not only will he be on the ticket this year, he will finish out his term.

[lawgirl]

I agree -- Sullivan must not have listened to his eulogy at the state funeral for Reagan- it was VERY personal and not at all darth-like. The Leahy incident I am sure is not the only time the Fbomb has been dropped in our Congress, it just so happens to be reported when it's Cheney. Cheney is not a limelight speaker and he's not a firecracker so everyone assumes he's nefarious. It's ridiculous- he is a fantastic speaker and very intelligent.

[independentmind]

This autumn, Edwards, a telegenic, bubbly lawyer who looks 40, will go up against Big Daddy Cheney, the bald, dour, snarling vice-president whose most recent public pronouncement was to tell a leading Democratic senator to “go f*** yourself”.

Why do I get the idea that Sullivan has problems with father figures? Sullivan is harming himself with this public fawning over Edwards. How many heterosexuals are comfortable reading or listening to it?

[Benrand]

he growled: “You guys want to hear this speech or not?”

I'm guessing this was said jokingly as Cheney has a great sense of humor.