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Benign neglect will save black America
The Times ^ | July 10, 2004 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 07/09/2004 4:25:02 PM PDT by MadIvan

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To: nopardons

Not Big John and Sparky, but the rest...

AND, Tom Corbett - Space Cadet, Green Hornet, Red Skelton, and the quiz shows - Share The Wealth, Arthur Godfrey's Talent Quest...

I was obviously an addict!

The Great Gildersleeves, Our Miss Brooks.."Hen-RY!" ;^)

Stop me.


41 posted on 07/09/2004 7:49:12 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Desdemona

Phonics was gradually replaced with an early version of "whole language" in the school where I attended beginning as early as the early 1960s. For many years, the older teachers used their old materials and continued to teach reading using phonics because they knew how well it worked. But the school had stopped replacing phonics materials, and the new teachers didn't even understand phonics themselves, so it gradually disappeared, and kids in my old school began not to learn to read in ever-larger numbers. Shameful.


42 posted on 07/09/2004 8:09:39 PM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: cyborg
I saw that movie too and while some of it was true,a lot of it was Hollyweird propaganda.

Okay,why did blacks have to wear "balckface" too? To make them darker and because it was the "tradition". One of THE best black Vaudevillians,Bert Williams,wore blackface.He was a fantastic comedian/singer,known for singing "NOBODY",his prat falls,and was in the Ziegfeld Follies.And yes,he wore blackface,as did Eddie Leonard.

Peg-Leg Bates didn't wear blackface.He was a one legged dancer,who wore lovely clothes and danced beautifully,with his pants leg rolled up,so that everyone could see his wooden "peg".

There actually were quite a number of well paid,well known blacks in Vaudeville,who went on to bigger and better things,such as Broadway shows and the movies.Bill, Bojangles, Robinson amongst them.

What you really have to take into consideration,is that there weren't any PC police nor hyperventilating race hustlers around back then and just about ALL of the comedy was racially/ethnically tinged,or down right overt.Jewish comics pretending to be Irish (Gallagher and Sheen),black comics wearing blackface,German comics,Polish comics,lower east-side Jewish humor,etc.and a lot of it was hysterically funny!

My grandmother used to do some of the routines for me and yes,I have done lots of subsequent research on this topic.I can sing you the famous Gallagher&Sheen bits. :-)

43 posted on 07/09/2004 8:10:52 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Howlin

I loved to be read to,when I was little,but I've never even tried books on tape,because I so love to read.


44 posted on 07/09/2004 8:12:20 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: cyborg
The truth about TWOTW,is that only a VERY few thought that it was for real,and they were the ones who didn't hear the show from the beginning.One of my housemothers,when I was at college,told us that only clods (her word)believed it was "real".

But there are people,today,who imagine that Moore's latest slockumentary is factual.So stupidity is always with us;unfortunately.

Radio shows were really GREAT! The BEEB still has them,unlike their lesser cousins in America.

45 posted on 07/09/2004 8:17:10 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

But it wasn't far from the truth that movie.. it's not as if Hollywood was interested in portraying black people being as normal as anyone else. Everything had to be a caricature as if the only image of black people that white people could accept was a caricature. Sometimes tradition can be a bad thing. Having said that, a lot of the ethnic comedy genre is making a comeback (wish it was without the cussing though).


46 posted on 07/09/2004 8:18:18 PM PDT by cyborg (the NYT is slipping down the hypotenuse of relevancy)
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To: nopardons

I saw F911 and it is terrible. It's a horrible cut and paste job with camera angles designed to demonize the president. Moore paid attention in film class I see.


47 posted on 07/09/2004 8:19:33 PM PDT by cyborg (the NYT is slipping down the hypotenuse of relevancy)
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To: headsonpikes
I LOVED "THE GREAT GIDERSLEEVE","OUR MISS BROOKS",hated Arthur Godfrey,but LOVED "FIBBER MCGEE AND MOLLY","DON MCNEAL'S BREAKFAST CLUB",and "SEARGENT PRESTON OF THE YUKON."

Heck,at 4,I even listened to a soap opera. LOL

Let's not stop...this is fun. :-)

48 posted on 07/09/2004 8:21:15 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

http://www.old-time.com/soaps/


49 posted on 07/09/2004 8:24:04 PM PDT by cyborg (the NYT is slipping down the hypotenuse of relevancy)
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To: cyborg
Some were,some wasn't;the sterotypes weren't as rampant as you imagine them to have been.And the black movies were incredable!

Have you seen "EMPORER JONES"? That was a white made movies,with NO stereotypes and I can name you at least a dozen others.Then,as I said,there were the black made black movies,NONE of which were any different from white movies,except the casts and crews and distributors were all black.

50 posted on 07/09/2004 8:27:31 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: cyborg

Still, some cretins believe what Moore's peddling. :-(


51 posted on 07/09/2004 8:28:20 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6303014259/103-6225341-3519825?v=glance


52 posted on 07/09/2004 8:29:29 PM PDT by cyborg (the NYT is slipping down the hypotenuse of relevancy)
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To: nopardons

Radio Dramas were marvellous!

Remember the private eyes - Boston Blackie, Richard Diamond(coolest PI ever), Don Grey - Marine Investigator(CBC show).

'I Was a Communist For The FBI' - there was dark drama!

We had all the U.S. shows PLUS a range of good Canadian shows.

Television was a dark curse laid upon the land.

;^)


53 posted on 07/09/2004 8:32:41 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: nopardons

Let me guess... you listened to the Ovaltine Hour too!


54 posted on 07/09/2004 8:32:41 PM PDT by cyborg (the NYT is slipping down the hypotenuse of relevancy)
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To: cyborg
Interesting link...thanks.

I listened to "MY TRUE STORY",which came on at 10:00A.M. and neither my mother nor grandmother listened to a soap. I found this one on my own.It ran for all of 15 minutes and just WHY it appealed to a wee 4 year old,I'll never know. LOL

55 posted on 07/09/2004 8:33:24 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: headsonpikes
That they were.

I loved the sci-fi/fantasy ones,"GANG BUSTERS" was thrilling,ansd yes, " I WAS A COMMUNIST FOR THE FBI" led me to whatch "I LED TWO LIVES" on T.V.,which was sort of the same show.

56 posted on 07/09/2004 8:36:54 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: cyborg

No..I didn't. LOL


57 posted on 07/09/2004 8:37:20 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: MadIvan

As long as the agenda groups are allowed to feel special and priviledged; and not individuals; they will continue until I hear, they wear us out.


58 posted on 07/09/2004 8:48:21 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: MadIvan

On this issue Cosby is spot on!


59 posted on 07/09/2004 11:30:23 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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