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To: H.Akston
H.Akston wrote:

When are you going to sue West Virginia for making this law? §61-8-5. Houses of ill fame and assignation; penalties; jurisdiction of courts.

How dim-witted you are hugh. --- Why should I sue about a perfectly valid state law regulating "Houses of ill fame and assignation"?

Here's another teaching point. When you said:

"No State has ever been given the power to dictate prohibitions on 'sinful behaviors' or on 'evil objects'."

That in itself was an absurd statement, since the definition of those things are so subjective,

Of course they're subjective. Makes it impossible to define in order to prohibit. You've inadvertently made part of my point, hughie.

plus it's patently false, since the States actually do have the power to outlaw beastiality and cruelty to animals, which I'm sure you've heard about, which perhaps even you would consider "sinful". Perhaps.

We agreed that bestiality IS cruelty to animals on another thread. So? Of course such behavior is regulated by law.

And the WV Constitution also permits the State to outlaw things that it and it's people decide aren't virtuous enough to have around:
"3-20. Preservation of free government. Free government and the blessings of liberty can be preserved to any people only by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality and virtue, and by a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles."

You're dreaming hugh. -- That phrase doesn't permit "outlawing things".

So if prostitution is not virtuous, in the opinion of the State of West Virginia's people, representatives, and judges, their State has yet even more latitude to outlaw prostitution. And that gets to my earlier point. What you think about prostitution, is utterly irrelevant to another state. That's why you'll lose when you take VA, NC, SC and WV to court for outlawing prostitution. But please let me know when you file. I want to watch the circus. I love to watch busybodies get shut down. (as you can tell) Now were you trying to make some sort of "point"?

Letting you rant on makes my points better than you know, my boy. Keep up the good work.

436 posted on 07/24/2004 9:40:39 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: tpaine

You've exceeded your number of allowed quibbles.


437 posted on 07/26/2004 6:17:25 AM PDT by H.Akston
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To: tpaine

A state also has the power to outlaw prostitution. - H.Akston

"No hugh" - tpaine

You are reduced to claiming that no state can outlaw prostitution! - H.Akston

"That is a constitutional fact." - tpaine

West Virginia has outlawed prostitution. - H.Akston

West Virginia Code:

§61-8-5. Houses of ill fame and assignation; penalties; jurisdiction of courts.
(b) Any person who shall engage in prostitution, lewdness, or assignation, or who shall solicit, induce, entice, or procure another to commit an act of prostitution, lewdness, or assignation; or who shall reside in, enter, or remain in any house, place, building, hotel, tourist camp, or other structure, or enter or remain in any vehicle, trailer, or other conveyance for the purpose of prostitution, lewdness, or assignation; or who shall aid, abet, or participate in the doing of any of the acts herein prohibited, shall, upon conviction for the first offense under this section, be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a period of not less than sixty days nor more than six months, and by a fine of not less than fifty dollars and not to exceed one hundred dollars; and upon conviction for the second offense under this section, be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a period of not less than six months nor more than one year, and by a fine of not less than one hundred dollars and not to exceed two hundred fifty dollars, and upon conviction for any subsequent offense under this section shall be punished by imprisonment in the penitentiary for not less than one year nor more than three years.

"The State of Va gets its power to write criminal law from its 'police power', hughie. " - tpaine

WVa's police power comes from the WV Constitution. - H.Akston, teacher of tpaine.

West Virginia Constitution:

"Among the powers so reserved to the states is the exclusive regulation of their own internal government and police;" - Article I-2

http://www.terranova.net/Sheriffs-Report/

The owner of an county-wide escort business run out of a home on Big Pine Key pled guilty May 27th to four misdemeanor charges and two felony charges relating to his occupation. 48 year old Michael Knezevich, owner of the Heavenly Bodies Escort Service, was arrested April 14th after he was caught during a prostitution sting in Marathon. He was charged with forcing a person to become a prostitute, deriving support from the proceeds of prostitution, offering to procure a person for the purpose of prostitution and with transporting a person for the purpose of prostitution. Sheriff's detectives with the Special Investigations Division were investigating a number of complaints from citizens about the escort service operated by Knezevich, and other escort businesses operating in the County. On April 28th, detectives served a search warrant at his home on Lobstertail Road on Big Pine Key. They found evidence that he was operating the escort service from that location, and found recording devices set up in several areas where it appears he may have been video taping sexual encounters without the knowledge of his partners. They also found two firearms in the house. At the time, Knezevich had a restraining order filed against him which prohibited him from possessing firearms, so he was charged with contempt of court and the guns were seized. He appeared in court on May 27th and pled guilty to a total of four misdemeanor charges and two felony charges. He was sentenced to 10 days in the county jail and received four years of probation. As a part of the plea agreement, he must also sell his home and move out of the county within 90 days. One of the conditions of his probation is that he not engage in any type of escort business and that he have no contact with any victims or witnesses in the cases in question.

"Such laws [outlawing prostitution] cannot be enforced without violations of other individual rights." - tpaine

I can't wait for the court case! Please let me know when you file!


438 posted on 07/26/2004 6:41:39 AM PDT by H.Akston
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