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To: steve-b
See if you can answer this one.

The 14th amendment says, in part: "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States". Here's the question: What are the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States?

Certainly not the rights mentioned in the BOR -- the BOR doesn't grant rights, it protects them. Plus the 14th doesn't even mention "rights". So, what are they?

"When the Fourteenth Amendment's Privileges and Immunities Clause is invoked, it prohibits states from denying their citizens the privileges and immunities of national citizenship, such as the right to petition Congress for redress of grievances, the right to vote for federal officers, the right to enter public lands, the right to interstate travel, and any other right flowing from the distinct relation of a citizen to the United States Government."
-- faculty.lls.edu/~manheimk/cl2/incorp1x.htm

That's it, amigo. That's all that's protected.

160 posted on 07/13/2004 6:31:30 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

Saying that a Right to Keep and Bear Arms shall not be infringed sounds an aweful lot like an "immunity". Despite your idiot rantings about your liberal judicial heros.


162 posted on 07/13/2004 7:42:31 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: robertpaulsen
Here's the question: What are the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States?

The drafter of the amendment answered that question for you. You didn't like the answer. Too bad.

163 posted on 07/13/2004 7:50:34 AM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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To: robertpaulsen
What are the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States?

On the off chance that you're not just trolling and this is really all new to you, here, 3rd column (remarks of Senator Howard, from the Joint Committee of Fifteen on Reconstruction, upon introducing the proposed amendment to the Senate).

168 posted on 07/13/2004 8:44:27 AM PDT by Sandy
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