Veteran gets rude welcome on Bainbridge [It's Baaaak!]

Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | July 9, 2004 | ROBERT L. JAMIESON Jr

[yoe]

Be sure that Mike Company, 3rd Batallion, 7th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division gets this story ASAP! I would love to be a fly on the wall - I hope they will use this and get some ink doing it!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Signed and e-mailed to my address book.

[Semaphore Heathcliffe]

That's what our whole problem is. We don't say anything.

bingo

[Taxman]

I'm tempted to say "Forgive them, for they know not what they do," but I know that is not true. These traitorous scum know exactly what they are doing!

As Harpseal used to say "Stay well -- Stay safe -- stay armed."

[Looking4Truth]

The left-leaning island hosted a group of people who support Bush's controversial war.

This is NOT Bush's war! It's a war against a fanatic satanistic death cult bent on spreading its cancer to all points on the globe. A war for civilization as we know it.

[Jon Alvarez]

link added...thx

never again will we see troops denigrated in the USA

[windchime]

Bump!

[JLO]

Maybe you haven't seen all the anti-Moore bashing that's been around FR for months and months.

Search/find is a good thing. Learn it.

[California Patriot]

"One day" isn't good enough.

"One day" has to be NOW. Fight these scum. Now,
not someday. We've bent over for them long enough.

[AmericanChef]

All I can say is - Yipes.

[Nowhere Man]

Thanks for your kind comments, I'm glad to see that we have people from places like Poland who seem to understand what is really important unlike some people we have here in the United States. As to Poland in the EU, I hope she fights the socialist beaucrats in Brussels but I think it was a mistake to join in the first place, I trust the EU just as much as I can lift a '68 Buick Wildcat (huge car) and toss it. I know someone else has explained the similar siutation we faced in Vietnam with the extreme liberals and them yelling "baby killers" but as I remarked on another thread, my mother made a good point where she "feels like she is reliving the 1960's again, and more."

I'm glad to see that Poland, Russia, and most of Eastern Europe understand a lot of this for being under communism so long, but I think a lot of people over here forget what all of this is about because to them, the Nazis and to the younger set, the Cold War is ancient history. I'm 38 and I do remember the Cold War. Still though, we do have a lot of bright young people who do understand it so even what I just said isn't all of it so there is an effort be the extreme left to force feed us their views as well.

[anonymoussierra]

Good afternoon America friend.

Thank you Great America friend.

[Colt .45]

Having served 20 years in the US Navy, and first enlisting during Vietnam, I was subjected to these same epithets many years ago. I would have to say from the serviceman's point of view that we tend to look very skeptically on anything where we feel its not genuine. Like a sudden rush of patriotism after a victory or during times when things are good. Its when the times get bad is when the true patriots get seperated from the "summer soldiers". I've always held the following poem by Rudyard Kipling as a good view on how veterans feel.

Tommy

By Rudyard Kipling

Born 1865

I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!

[GoLightly]

The idea is for you & your countrymen to speak out against the communism & if/when that doesn't cure the collective, work to get your countrymen to pull out of the union. Unlike the USSR, the EU doesn't have a big military to inflict it's will. In the US, this is what "state's rights" are all about. The voice of Poland should be heard, recognized within the federation. If it's not heard, the basic purpose of a particular "government" has become perverted.

By hooking up to the EU the trade advantages should help improve Poland's overall economy & the standard of living for the Polish people. I cannot say I like all of the policies of the EU, but the expanded free trade zone is worth giving the idea a chance, in my opinion.

[GoLightly]

Better to keep your mouth shut and have people suspect that your're a fool than open your mouth and confirm their suspicions.

One of my all time favorites.

[GoLightly]

anonymoussierra, Irak, Iraq, either way is fine. In truth, Arabic is the language spoken there, so it's spelling in the characters we use is a phonetic near hit. It's like a lot of Arabic names, where you see things like the last name of Libia's leader spelled with either a G or a K. Is Osama correct or is it Usama? I've seen both. The holy book of Islam starts with a K or a Q, depending on the writer's preference. Then we have the nation of Qatar. How is pronounced? I've noticed more people saying it as they would the word gutter, though it used to sound like katar or kutar.

[Cowboy Bob]

Jason heard words from the crowd that felt like a thousand daggers to the heart. "Baby killer!"

I thought that in the age of Abortion, "Baby Killer" would be considered to be a compliment by the Left.

[GoLightly]

No kidding. I'm told I butcher the few words I've learned & I haven't a clue how to spell any of them.

I'm itching to tell a story. Our company bought our first Polish engine lathe about 25 years ago. Over the years we bought several more & generally, they were great machines, but we had a small problem with one of them. Polamco had an American company handling warranties, but their repairmen were Polish nationals in the state's with short term worker's visas.

Anyway, we had a couple of hard working Polish machinists working to repair our machine for several days. The Polish men knew a bit of English, though it was a struggle. Anyway, as a thank you for the fine, dedicated work they had done for us, my ex-husband took the workers out for dinner. Faced with a menu in English, the workers politely ordered the same thing as their host, which was the largest porterhouse steak on the menu, cooked medium.

The plates arrived & there was a gigantic steak on each of the plates. One of the Polish guys got a good look at the cut of meat draped nearly off the edge of his large plate & his eyes got as big as saucers. "This is medium?" My ex had to resist the temptation to say, you should see a big one.

[GoLightly]

Thank you for your service on my behalf. Your inaction way back then... It was a crazy time. I'm old enough to remember, though I was too young to be involved back then. The pukes weren't worth your energy.

[Jon Alvarez]

yeah...written mostly by me, then told how wrong it is to give him attention, blah, blah, blah. I've been covering this story for over a year. Thank you.