Posted on 07/08/2004 4:08:45 PM PDT by truthkeeper
After being inundated with calls from L.A. listeners, Asa Hutchinson has agreed to go on the show. He's on right now, so be there or be square. Will try to type the good stuff while I listen.
I do not think your term means what you think it means, mi amigo. BTW, it's "NON SEQUITUR."
My post was meant with sly humor, as the article and posts (as I saw at that moment in time) contained two similarities to this thread:
1) Criticisms of federal policy under the current administration.
2) No criticisms of Democrats.
On this thread, you have been dismissive of those of us critical of the federal government's handling of immigration law enforcement here in Southern California when the criticisms do not contain equal emphasis on the poor governance provided by Senators Boxer and Feinstein.
Clearly, whether one mentions our two Senators or not has no reflection on the merits of the positions taken by these posters. What if I were to say that you have no standing to be critical of either Boxer of Feinstein because you've never cast a vote for their opponents as I have? That statement would be nonsense and irrelevant to your criticisms against Boxer and Feinstein.
Similarly, whether a poster or radio host actually has a double standard or not has ZERO relevance to the issue at hand. It may go to the integrity of the complainant, but the statements, complaints, and positions stand despite the possible faults of the messenger.
In conclusion, a large majority of your posts on this thread have been non sequiturs, at least by this definition: "NON SEQUITUR [n] a reply that has no relevance to what preceded it." (source: http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/non+sequitur)
Of the 2, the southern border is 90% of that.
Secure the southern border first, then the northern border.
It's not easy coming here illegally by boat. If it was, the Dominican Republic and Haiti would be empty.
Your arguments are a joke.
Similarly, whether a poster or radio host actually has a double standard or not has ZERO relevance to the issue at hand. It may go to the integrity of the complainant, but the statements, complaints, and positions stand despite the possible faults of the messenger
That all sounds nice and fancy, but the real life fact remains that the majority of these posters spitting blood at Hutchinson, get all upset when the real life fact that they don't criticize their elected representative in DC.
Hey I'm used to be attacked as the messenger, to bad John and Ken can't take the heat.
but I like dead dogs and turds on my sidewalks...they're only doing what Americans won't do...
If Kerry and Edwards get elected, Bush has no-one to blame but himself.
Bush is the one ordering Asa to order the mobile Border Patrol unit to stand down.
IMO, Kerry and Edwards will cause twice the gridlock and twice the Conservative revolution that Bill, Hillary and Gore ever caused.
IMO, 4 years of gridlock beats the hell out of 4 more years of the slow surrendering to the Leftists that we've had under Bush.
Can you possibly be that dumb?
Four years?
How about 16 years.
You just keep your tunnel vision and put your agenda before the rest of the entire country.
But don't come back on here bitching about Kerry after next January.
If Kerry and Edwards get elected, Bush has no-one to blame but himself
You should really update your Buchanan talking points.
Watched a little bit of Scarborough last night while channel surfing.
Pat was actually rallying behind the President in the debate with Lawrence O'Donnell of whether the DHS warning was politically motivated.
About fell out of my chair.
By "on the job," I assume you mean actually performing the primary mission. Most federal agencies have about 15% of their work force actually engaged in performing the primary mission. The remaining 85% are overhead positions; unless you plan on not paying the people actually on watch, administering their personnel records, planning and monitoring budgets, maintaining facilities and equipment, responding to CONGRINTs, and processing the absolutely astonishing volume of paperwork associated with all those tasks, you've got to have those people.
However, there is a catch. That 15% figure is for those agencies that do not require 24/7 manning.
Bottom line: for each post, you have five bodies in rotation. Just manning one additional post per mile of the Mexican border with one person requires 10,000 persons.
Second, understand that for every person performing the actual mission, there's going to be about 5 people doing other work that supports accomplishing the mission, and those people are going to cost you $120K per body. TANSTAAFL. Now, maybe you're thinking of outsourcing that work to India to save money, but I don't think that's a wise idea.
Name the ones that are on watch 24/7, 365 days a year. Would that be the U.S. Postal Service?
No.
The U.S.P.S. has hired 750,000 workers for every 25,000 it has "on post" at any given time?
Does the post office deliver mail around the clock, 7 days a week, 365 days a year?
No, it doesn't.
Are you only planning to man the border on an 8/5 basis and hope that the smugglers take weekends and evenings off?
That's right, I live in South Florida...no illegal immigrants here.
At least not from Haiti, Venezuela, Colombia, El Salvador, Jamaica, Trinidad, Brazil...
Oh yeah!
And even some from Cuba!
That's right, what would I know, living in Florida, about unguarded borders?
After all, we ony have borders with Georgia and Alabama, and everyone knows that our 1,200 Statute miles of coastline and 660 miles of Beaches are perfectly safe from people trying to enter the country illegally.
I am talking about people smuggling.
The interdiction rate for druggies is even lower.
The Coast Guard's take is pretty simple: if a majority of immigrant smuggling moves to the water, the Coast Guard is not going to be any more successful than the Border Patrol.
You really are desperate.
Let me revise the above italicized passage, the last sentence should state,
get all upset when the real life fact that they don't criticize their elected state representative in DC.
Don't doubt that you understood me, but some on FR with correspondence PHD's in Semantics, probably didn't, thus my revision.
It's Bush's own policies on illegal immigration that will lose the election for him.
All your name-calling and personal attacks won't change that.
You really are desperate
Maybe you should send a memo to Moby, as of last night on MSNBC, Pat was actually rallying for President Bush.
But of course knowing Pat, that could change, so it maybe a bit premature and Moby can still stay with Plan A.
He has more than one issue to deal with, unlike you.
Stay home and don't vote.
Nobody on this web site cares whether you vote or not; it is the stated goal of this web site to reelect George W. Bush.
Why are YOU here?
And they've done a wonderfully inept job.
You're saying that there are an average of no more than 10,000 to 12,000 TSA employees available for screening work, at those 430 airports, at any given time?
Yup. The rest are paper-pushers.
You're also saying that those 60,000 plus TSA employees cost the U.S. Taxpayers $120,000 each per year?
Yes. Salary is but a small part of the total employment cost.
The U.S.P.S has hundreds and hundreds of 24 hr facilities. The U.S. Mail is continuously on the move from distribution center to distribution center.
Using your numbers, the whole country would have to work for the U.S.P.S..
LOL!
Bush opposed the education provision. Me too. Nobody sneaks over the border so that their children can be introduced to the fine public school systems in California. If their kids are there, make sure they're at least speaking English.
You live in Iowa.
(a) I am new to Iowa. (b) Fine, screw California. You can't have it both ways. You can't appeal to us to give a damn because illegal immigrants are attracted to your welfare state paradise and then get all provincial when we discuss and disagree even slightly with the mob tactics at the frustration you find that the Republican party which you disdain, ignore and refuse to vote for ignores you.
Keep appealing to the anti-illegals Democrats that you keep electing. Oh, wait . . .
No, they have 60,000, but only 18,000 (at most) are actually screening baggage--and, BTW, doing so about as efficiently as you would expect federal employees to do anything (including catch illegal aliens). I guess you haven't flown lately, or read the various "TSA SUX" threads on FR.
The U.S.P.S has hundreds and hundreds of 24 hr facilities.
Very few relative to the number of post offices around the country. The vast majority of the USPS operates on a 8/5 basis.
The U.S. Mail is continuously on the move from distribution center to distribution center.
Mostly by common commerical carrier.
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