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Log Cabin Republicans Happy With GOP Convention Speaker Line Up
Republican National Coalition for Life ^ | July 8, 2004 | Republican National Coalition for Life

Posted on 07/08/2004 1:10:40 PM PDT by Polycarp IV

Log Cabin Republicans Happy With GOP Convention Speaker Line Up

The homosexual group known as Log Cabin Republicans praised the Republican national convention for its choice of “inclusive, big-tent Republicans to speak in prime time at the convention in New York City,” reports the June 30 issue of the Advocate.com, a self-described award-winning national gay and lesbian newsmagazine web site.

“The speakers include former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, Arizona Senator John McCain, California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, and New York Governor George Pataki.”

“These speakers represent the future of the Republican Party,” said Patrick Guerriero, executive director of the Log Cabin Republicans. “These Republicans are among the leading voices for inclusion in the GOP.”

McCain, Giuliani, Schwarzenegger, and Pataki have all been critical of what they call the “anti-gay” Federal Marriage Amendment. Each of these Republicans has a track record of running winning “inclusive” campaigns and of support for many issues critical to the gay and lesbian community, according to the Advocate.

Giuliani, Schwarzenegger and Pataki are ardently pro-abortion as well, as is New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg, former New Jersey Governor Christine Todd Whitman, and former finance chairman of the Republican National Committee Lew Eisenberg, all of whom are playing a major role in financing and organizing the Convention.

Reagan conservatives are, so far, not to be found among those who will present their views to the nation in prime time during the convention. A few pro-life, pro-family, pro-marriage conservatives, who, after all, represent those of us who are the stakes that hold up the “big tent,” will probably be featured during the morning hours of the Convention, when the rest of the American people are busy with their daily duties and not watching television.

This sorry state of affairs prompted Kate O’Beirne, Washington editor of National Review, to point out in her 7/7/04 column, (http://www.nationalreview.com/kob/obeirne200407070839.asp) that the only announced Convention speaker who actually agrees with President Bush on major issues is a Democrat – Senator Zell Miller of Georgia!

“When the only Reagan Republican to enjoy a prominent supporting role at the party’s Convention is a Democrat, the GOP has a serious identity problem.”

“Given the political ambitions of some of the speakers, the party faithful should pray that Rockefeller Republicanism is not back in the future.” [Is that an echo we hear?]


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; culturewar; homosexualagenda; homosexualbehavior; logcabinrepublicans; mockinggod; rncconvention; romans1; spiritualbattle; trojanhorse; vicenotvirtue
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To: Polycarp IV

"LIFE comes first. Its not "single issue," its the FOUNDATIONAL issue upon which all other rights rest.

If the politician can't get it right on basic human rights, they won't get it right on much of anything. I won't vote for them. Period. Regardless of their party."

Amen, Poly!

Ed


121 posted on 07/08/2004 6:19:11 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Dog Gone
"All Republicans are not the same or we'd have no basis to make a choice in primary elections. I'm content to belong to a party where I agree with most of the candidates and most of the party voters."

I realize the GOP isn't monochromatic, but what bugs me is the Party's tacit embarrassment with the conservative wing reflected in the asymmetry of it's speaker line-up.

Where/who are the conservative speaker(s)??

The GOP's entire message, and obvious demotion of its traditional base is totally unacceptable to those of us who are true conservatives.

We may vote Dubya in '04, but in '08 and thereafter the Republican Party will find itself in a far more contentious situation than they could ever imagine.

122 posted on 07/08/2004 6:19:23 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Askel5

Is Barbara the one, or one of the ones, always pushing for that?


123 posted on 07/08/2004 6:23:30 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Dog Gone
"Answer this: Can a gay be a conservative and want to vote for Republican candidates?"

Yes, and I cant stop it. But I do prefer to win without their Trojan Horse and dont believe we need them to win.

Provided we get all our votes counted this time.

I would go so far as to say we would gain enough conservative votes by shunning LCRs to cancel theirs out.

124 posted on 07/08/2004 6:24:12 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Polycarp IV

I would expect some pro-illegal alien speakers as well. The rest of the lineup doesn't surprise me at all. Conservatism is functionally dead in the GOP.


125 posted on 07/08/2004 6:25:08 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: lilylangtree

At this rate a third party can't come soon enough.


126 posted on 07/08/2004 6:25:59 PM PDT by John Lenin
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bump


127 posted on 07/08/2004 6:26:12 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Polycarp IV
I voted for pro-life Democrat Bob Casey for PA gov. If I had the choice today to vote for either Bob Casey or pro-abort "Catholic" former PA Gov Tom Ridge I would vote once again for pro-life Democrat Casey.

So what do you do if your choices are between a pro-abortion Republican and a pro-abortion Democrat? (Make it more fun & assume the Libertarian candidate is pro-abortion too.) Do you just not vote?

128 posted on 07/08/2004 6:31:02 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: Lady Heron
I look at my Texas senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson as a perfect example of what I was talking about. She's pro-abortion, but she votes the conservative line about 95% of the time, including for the ban against partial birth abortion.

So her views on abortion don't matter. Yet there are conservatives in Texas who won't vote for her because of her views on something they consider critical.

It's only critical if it matters, and if her/his opponent holds the opposite view and every other facet of their political philosophy balances out. The religious right often tends to view a particular social issue as raising a veto flag about voting for a particular candidate, regardless of what the consequences of that candidate losing will mean, and regardless of whether that candidate could really affect that social issue in the first place.

They are not right to stay home, but apparently many of them are dumb enough to do it.

129 posted on 07/08/2004 6:33:02 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Polycarp IV; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; livius; ...

The queers are happy, the pro-aborts are happy, the "economic conservative, but socially liberal" crowd is happy, the RNC is cool with this and one has to assume that the President is too. Me, I wouldn't go if you gave me the air fare and a five star hotel room. I hope I can force myself to vote this November because I KNOW John Kerry support gun grabbers, baby killers and queers. Does President Bush also? (The lineup includes gun grabbers, baby killers and is supported by the queers and no doubt the queer children of the GOP will be there and spotlighted as well.)


130 posted on 07/08/2004 6:37:59 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: Sir_Ed
the conservative vs. liberal battles started WAY before Reagan.

Taft/Ike, Goldwater/Rockefeller, Ford/Reagan,

Cain/Abel, Eve/Adam, St Michael the Archangel/Lucifer...

131 posted on 07/08/2004 6:44:28 PM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic - -without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: valkyrieanne; Dog Gone; Lady Heron

"So what do you do if your choices are between a pro-abortion Republican and a pro-abortion Democrat? (Make it more fun & assume the Libertarian candidate is pro-abortion too.) Do you just not vote?"

My opinion? You don't vote. Kay Hutchison's vote this week against the Judge is why. You can NEVER trust a babykiller, ever. You may THINK you can, but they are warped.


132 posted on 07/08/2004 6:44:35 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: F16Fighter
Where/who are the conservative speaker(s)??

That's a fair question, and certainly the prime time speakers were not chosen with pandering to the right wing of the party. I wasn't too pleased with the lineup, but I think I see the strategery. In a perceived close election, you have to win the mushy middle. Giving McCain a slot, where he endorses Bush, is critical. Same with Ahnuld and the others. This convention has been orchestrated to appeal to the non-political Americans, the ones who will determine the outcome.

We conservatives are on board, but we wanted some red meat thrown at us. We didn't get something equivalent to Sean Hannity. The planners are taking us for granted, and they're probably right. None of us can allow John Kerry to become President even if we feel like we're being ignored.

The convention is nothing more than a big campaign commercial in slow motion. It's trying to appeal to the consumer who feels he has a choice.

133 posted on 07/08/2004 6:45:31 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

"None of us can allow John Kerry to become President even if we feel like we're being ignored."

True.

"The planners are taking us for granted, and they're probably right."

Maybe. They may be doing more than taking us for granted, they may be taking us for a ride. Has the Bush administration reversed "Don't ask, don't tell"? Are women still being used in close combat support? Are abortions still being done without let or hinderance? Are conservative judges being FOUGHT for? We may be being played as patsies while babykillers like the lineup at the convention get RICH 'representing' us.


134 posted on 07/08/2004 6:50:23 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: little jeremiah

as compared to gay marriage? no way. who cares if gays want to enter into wills, estates, health care proxy rights, rights as tenants, etc. I don't. gay marriage would be alot more pervasive then that on the culture.


135 posted on 07/08/2004 6:52:06 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Dog Gone
I look at my Texas senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson as a perfect example of what I was talking about. She's pro-abortion, but she votes the conservative line about 95% of the time, including for the ban against partial birth abortion.

So her views on abortion don't matter. Yet there are conservatives in Texas who won't vote for her because of her views on something they consider critical.

You couldn't be more wrong! They DO matter:

*** SPECIAL CONGRESSIONAL ALERT ***

Will Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison "Bork" Bush Judicial Appointee?

A vote is expected soon in the United States Senate on the confirmation of J. Leon Holmes to a seat on the U.S. District Court in Arkansas.

According to a November 3, 2003 report in The Hill, a newspaper that reports on political happenings on Capitol Hill, "at least four centrist Republicans expressed doubts about Holmes, based on statements culled from some of his writings." The four are: Arlen Specter (PA), Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins (ME), and Kay Bailey Hutchison (TX).

All four of the Senators listed above are pro-abortion. J. Leon Holmes is pro-life. That's the number one reason they might vote against President Bush's judicial nominee.

Mr. Holmes is also a devout Catholic whose "writings" include an article he co-authored with his wife Susan about the Christian role of men and women, husbands and wives, based entirely on the New Testament and published in the Holmes's church newspaper.

With all the difficulty we are having with activist judges and Daschle obstructionism, it is shocking that any Republican Senator would consider voting against a nominee because he is pro-life and because he wrote a Christian article for his church newspaper that the feminists don't agree with. That's religious bigotry!

We are told that Senator Hutchison's office is taking a tally of phone calls regarding this appointment. They are counting those who ask her to vote to confirm Holmes and those who ask her to vote against him.

You see, Senator Hutchison is widely rumored to be seriously considering returning to Texas in 2006 to run for Governor in the Republican Primary against sitting Governor Rick Perry, who, while not perfect on the life issues, is a far sight better than she. Senator Hutchison is pro-abortion until viability and most Texans don't like that.

Senator Hutchison's vote on J. Leon Holmes' confirmation will be duly noted in Texas.

Please pick up the phone right away and call Senator Hutchison's office to add your request to the tally — you want her to vote YES on confirming J. Leon Holmes to the federal bench in Arkansas.

Calls should be placed from everywhere in the nation — especially Texas!

Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison — Phone: 202/224-5922; Fax: 202/224-0776

136 posted on 07/08/2004 6:52:55 PM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic - -without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: Dog Gone
"We conservatives are on board, but we wanted some red meat thrown at us. We didn't get something equivalent to Sean Hannity...."

You're right, we got nothing. Nada. Not even a bone.

"...The planners are taking us for granted, and they're probably right. None of us can allow John Kerry to become President even if we feel like we're being ignored."

Now this is where I feel the message sent is ANY conservative is too embarrassing to showcase -- like bums who the politicians like to "hide" or flush out near Conventions.

If we're THAT embarrassing to the GOP and threat to those in the "mushy middle," then so too are the "issues" that are important to us.

137 posted on 07/08/2004 6:55:14 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Polycarp IV; Dog Gone

"You couldn't be more wrong! They DO matter:"

They do. Please think about this, your Senator is willing to defend the MURDER of babies. That's all. Just that one flaw. Get inside of the mind of someone who will agree that killing a baby is OK. Then RUN, They are unstable. Their conscience is malformed. They cannot be trusted, ever.


138 posted on 07/08/2004 6:56:25 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: F16Fighter

Ride in the back of the bus. Vote, work for us (including the gun grabbing, baby killing queers) and then SHUT UP.


139 posted on 07/08/2004 6:58:32 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: narses
The US Senate hasn't fought for the judges as hard as I would like, but I can't really lay the blame on Bush, who has used recess appointments.

I have NEVER seen a criticism from conservatives of a single judge he has nominated while President. Not one.

If you want to look for reasons not to vote for Bush, I'm sure you can find them. You can do that for any decision you make.

140 posted on 07/08/2004 6:59:08 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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