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"Actually, due to program acquisition processes, the cost of the program actually ROSE after it was cut a number of times."

Yep...when the program is tooled for full scale production in year 1 and you defer to year 5 that happens.

"You have to understand that even a single May-Tag washer would cost a million bucks if it was a completely new design and had to have new tooling"

No it wouldn't. Your economics for pilots text book would tell you that competition wouldn't allow that.

I WOULD agree if it were a gov't procurement program it most definitely would cost a million bucks..before overrunns.

"Change the law, don't fuss about the results of the law as the cost per-unit is a non-issue and non-starter."

No, the cost - whether on a per-unit or a programmatic basis is the ONLY issue hampering the F-22 program. As you know from your procurement for pilots textbook, the money comes from Congress, and Congress weighs many competing interests.

"This is way more complicated that most people understand."

It doesn't have to be, but obscure DOD accounting practices make it much more complex than need be. This is a political thing, more than an accounting thing.

"We disagree."

I'm interested in why you think this is so.....but lemme guess your response, from the Pukin' Dog school of ettiquette...'You are a pretender, you may or may not be in the industry....I'm so sick of people like you who don't know what you don't know that I feel like slapping you.....I don't have time to explain it to you, and right now everyone is laughing at you' (humorously formulaic!)

"Hardly. The F-22 will be operational and replace front-line aircraft"

It will replace SOME front line aircraft, sure. But you don't know how many we are going to buy (neither do I)......however, right now, with budgets being what they are, it is reasonable to assume that the production budget will suffer continuing cuts. Chapter 1 budgeting for pilots.

"Enough of this thread.

Have a nice day.

Buh-bye."

No way. You'll read this and perhaps offer some colorful insight to me on how I don't know what the heck I'm talking about...... ;-) keep it tongue-in-cheek, my man. We're all on the same side.

Have a nice weekend. I continue to enjoy the "dialogue" with the circle of military pilots on this board. I find it interesting that your opinions are so rigid on the F-22, when the financial/budgetary/political writing is plainly on the wall with regards to this program, no matter how good or great the aircraft is.

There is a reason why it very likely won't be procured in the volumes you (and the pentagon) clearly want......I'm interested in that, aren't you?

Again....have a nice weekend.