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ABC to televise abortion
The Australian ^ | July 09, 2004 | Emma-Kate Symons

Posted on 07/08/2004 11:49:51 AM PDT by Tai_Chung

THE abortion of a four-week-old foetus will be broadcast on Australian television after the ABC agreed to show the graphic British documentary My Foetus.

In what is an Australian first, the film will be broadcast on the religious affairs show Compass on August 8 despite sparking a vehement public debate in Britain.

It shows a four-week-old foetus being sucked out of a woman's womb using the "manual vacuum aspiration" technique, and footage of the dismembered remains of foetuses from the ages of 12 to 21 weeks.

The film was produced by Julia Black, the daughter of the founder of the pro-abortion British Marie Stopes clinic, who was heavily pregnant during the filming.

In the film, 34-year-old Black, who describes herself as pro-choice, struggles with the memory of the abortion she had at the age of 21.

She told journalists that after making the film she realised there "is a difference" between an abortion at eight weeks and a woman who aborts her foetus at 24 weeks, later in her term.

When the film was screened in Britain, Channel 4 broadcast a warning at the outset and offered viewers a helpline to call if they were traumatised by the images.

Newspaper opinion pages were filled with debate about the merits of screening such confronting footage, and commentators and politicians debated the legal limit of 24 weeks for abortion in Britain.

This week, British Prime Minister Tony Blair indicated that new medical research, such as the ultrasound scan showing a foetus "walking" in the womb at 12 weeks, could prompt a reassessment of the legal time-limit for abortions.

Health Minister Tony Abbott has stirred up public discussion about abortion in Australia in recent months, after he lamented the "national tragedy" of Australian women having 100,000 abortions a year.

Mr Abbott questioned Medicare support for 75,000 abortions annually, although John Howard said there would be no change to the public funding of terminations.

Australian women can legally have an abortion up until 20 weeks into a pregnancy.


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To: Tai_Chung

What’s the big deal, it’s no different than showing a wart removal right?


21 posted on 07/08/2004 12:27:03 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: Semper Paratus
Kevorkian went to jail for killing a willing victim on TV. I believe it was 60 minutes.

God foresaw these kinds of things and included a line in the book of Proverbs to ensure we won't use certain excuses when we meet Him face to face:

Proverbs 24: 11 Rescue those being led away to death; hold back those staggering toward slaughter. 12 If you say, "But we knew nothing about this," does not he who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not he who guards your life know it? Will he not repay each person according to what he has done?

22 posted on 07/08/2004 12:28:40 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: tractorman
What’s the big deal, it’s no different than showing a wart removal right?

What, you're not one of those wart-lovin' anti-choicers, are you?

23 posted on 07/08/2004 12:30:02 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Tai_Chung
All this fuss from the left? It's just tissue, correct? A lump of cells?

They show all sorts of internal surgery on tv these days. They just don't want audiences to know the truth about what that "tissue" is.

24 posted on 07/08/2004 12:31:42 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tai_Chung

Baby SNUFF FLIX... wonderful.

25 posted on 07/08/2004 12:37:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Tai_Chung
I believe it was Ronald Reagan that said: "Have you ever noticed that all the people that support abortion have already been born?"

"If you don't know whether a body is alive or dead, you would never bury it. I think this coinsideration itself should be enough for all of us to insist on protecting the unborn."--Ronald Reagan, ABORTION & THE CONSCIENCE OF THE NATION, Thomas Nelson, 1984, p. 21.

"Modern medicine treats the unborn child as a patient. Medical pioneers have made great breakthroughs in treating the unborn--for genetic problems, vitamin deficiencies, irregular heart rhythyms, and other medical conditions. Who can forget George Will's moving account of the little boy who underwent brain surgery six times during the nine weeks before he was born? Who is the patient if not that tiny unborn human being who can feel pain when he or she is approached by doctors who come to kill rather than to cure?"--Ronald Reagan, pp. 21-22.

26 posted on 07/08/2004 12:37:18 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Tai_Chung
I believe it was Ronald Reagan that said: "Have you ever noticed that all the people that support abortion have already been born?"

"Regrettably, we live at a time when some persons do not value all human life. They want to pick and choose which individuals have value...Obviously, some influential people want to deny that every human life has intrinsic, sacred worth. They insist that a member of the human race must have certain qualities before they accord him or her status as a 'human being.'"--Ronald Reagan, ABORTION & THE CONSCIENCE OF A NATION, pp. 24-25

27 posted on 07/08/2004 12:41:19 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: William Creel

Yep. I saw a video in college and it completely changed my mind. I wrote a poem about what I saw for a class, and the teacher cried. I got an A+.


28 posted on 07/08/2004 12:43:08 PM PDT by rintense (Kerry/Edwards: Two Johns to screw America)
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To: Tai_Chung; sweetliberty; MHGinTN

So 3 of 4 Australian abortions are paid for by the state ... (free-to-the-murderer, that is).

Makes you wonder why the abortion industry wants the state to keep paying for them, doesn't it? /sarcasm


29 posted on 07/08/2004 12:46:43 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly ... But Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS press corpse lies every day.)
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To: Colofornian

I actually voted for warts before I voted against them.


30 posted on 07/08/2004 12:47:07 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: Billthedrill
turned around on the issue over something like this. A warning to those who think they know what they're getting into - these are some of the most profoundly disturbing images you will ever encounter. Literally the stuff of nightmares. You have been warned.

Actually, these are images that should be in just about every middle school and high school.

In just about every state, a minor can get an abortion. In some states, mom or pop has to know, but has no power to either consent or withhold consent. In some states, parental consent laws are on judicial hold. In other states, there are no parental consent or parental notification laws. And then in the remaining parental consent law states whereby it is being enforced, guess what, Junioress can get a judicial bypass.

Therefore, if the kids are old enough to get pregnant or get someone pregnant, they need to know what they could be getting into minus Mom&Pop's guidance or knowledge.

31 posted on 07/08/2004 12:48:28 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
So 3 of 4 Australian abortions are paid for by the state ... (free-to-the-murderer, that is). Makes you wonder why the abortion industry wants the state to keep paying for them, doesn't it?

Between 1 in 7 and 1 in 8 US abortions are paid for by your friendly insurance provider--probably including the one that your employer pays benefits to on your behalf and one 99.999% of us have never said a peep about.

32 posted on 07/08/2004 12:51:22 PM PDT by Colofornian (Ain't it nice to know that your health insurance company is part of the abortion industry?)
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To: Mrs Zip; BOBWADE

ping


33 posted on 07/08/2004 12:52:52 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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To: tractorman
I actually voted for warts before I voted against them.

Well, for some folks, it was the other way around. Warts voted for them, and the only choice they had was to remain sexually pure before marriage or go w/the cultural flow.

34 posted on 07/08/2004 12:53:03 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Mrs Zip; BOBWADE

ping


35 posted on 07/08/2004 12:53:16 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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To: Tai_Chung
It's about time.

Carolyn

36 posted on 07/08/2004 1:01:40 PM PDT by CDHart (I'm not crazy. I've just been in a bad mood for 40 years. [Steel Magnolias])
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To: Ciexyz
More liberals abort their babies than do conservatives, therefore, 18 years down the road, there will be less liberals in the voting pool to continue voting for these barbaric abortions.

True, but the rate isn't that much higher. The pro-abortion and pro-life folks agree on this one: A high % of church folks have had previous abortions [tho admittedly a good chunk of these women were not practicing their faith or even considered themselves Christians when they had their abortion(s)].

One source: See George Grant's book, GRAND ILLUSIONS: THE LEGACY OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD, re: thousands of medical records that were found outside a Houston abortion clinic (in a dumpster). A very high % of clients not only named their religious affiliation, but named their local pastor.

Pastors & church leaders broadly & mistakenly believe that "abortion" is a problem in "outthereland" which only reinforces their reluctance to address their members on what abortion is.

37 posted on 07/08/2004 1:05:01 PM PDT by Colofornian (Shame is a cruel weapon in the hands of a demonic force but a necessary 1 living in a moral universe)
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To: Tai_Chung
In the film, 34-year-old Black, who describes herself as pro-choice, struggles with the memory of the abortion she had at the age of 21.

Good.

38 posted on 07/08/2004 1:11:49 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Tai_Chung

I saw this when it was broadcast here in England. I would recommend that all do watch it; but be warned, it left me stunned for a good few moments afterwards.

The abortion shown is very early term, and thus appears in many ways to be a minor routine procedure. The aborted child is not recognisable afterwards due to his/her size, but the dialogue there (the presenter and the nurse) turned my stomach.

It showed some of the new 4D ultra-sound images, which are little short of miraculous.

I found that the programme reaffirmed my utter pro-life convictions, but I am not sure that it would change many pro-abortion minds.


39 posted on 07/08/2004 1:15:52 PM PDT by tjwmason (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Colofornian

>>Between 1 in 7 and 1 in 8 US abortions are paid for by your friendly insurance provider--probably including the one that your employer pays benefits to on your behalf and one 99.999% of us have never said a peep about.<<

REALLY?!?!
Geez, I have to look at my policy.
What do I do about it? Any ideas?


40 posted on 07/08/2004 1:16:49 PM PDT by netmilsmom ("We haven't begun military action. the world will know when we do." -Marine in Fallujah)
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