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Missing Marine mystery deepens (ARE YOU THAT STUPID?!!)
msnbc ^ | 7:52 p.m. ET July 07, 2004 | Jim Miklaszewski

Posted on 07/07/2004 7:05:35 PM PDT by Vision

Edited on 07/07/2004 8:23:44 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: luvbach1; devolve; MeekOneGOP

Ping on #29 - There's those names again in the same sentence - Berg and Moore.


41 posted on 07/07/2004 8:44:45 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: Happy2BMe
The whole thing stinks...bad,
42 posted on 07/07/2004 8:45:03 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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To: Smartass; MeekOneGOP; devolve; PhilDragoo; dennisw; SJackson
I said on DAY ONE he deserted over to his Muslim brethren and defected to aid the enemy.

How many more like him in our ranks?

43 posted on 07/07/2004 8:47:22 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: clintonh8r
their "religion" trumps everything....country, family, even their buddies

Yours doesn't?

44 posted on 07/07/2004 8:47:40 PM PDT by ASA Vet (tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for bad *%$#**& language skills.)
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To: rintense
Conspiracy time: Is it possible this guy killed his Marine brothers to prove loyalty to Allah and the men who helped him escape the US military?

I sure hope not, because that's just too terrible to contemplate. But the circumstances of the 4 Marine's deaths and Cpl. Hassoun's disappearance are fishy.

45 posted on 07/07/2004 8:47:44 PM PDT by saquin
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To: Happy2BMe

I said on DAY ONE he deserted over to his Muslim brethren and defected to aid the enemy.
How many more like him in our ranks?


Kerry
Edwards
Clarke
Kennedy
Clinton


46 posted on 07/07/2004 8:50:00 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak)
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To: Happy2BMe

Very troubling situation. I'm sure the PC folks have their antennas up.


47 posted on 07/07/2004 8:50:48 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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To: Happy2BMe

I'm with you; I don't think this family has acted like they were sure this guy was kidnapped.

And as soon as I read he arrived in Utah on September 10th, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up.


48 posted on 07/07/2004 8:53:10 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: RaceBannon

>>He looked to clean and neat in that hostage photo, and no sweat on his face, no bruises, nothing.<<

...and no orange jumpsuit..


49 posted on 07/07/2004 8:53:18 PM PDT by sissyjane (You're either with us or against us.)
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To: Howlin
"And as soon as I read he arrived in Utah on September 10th, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up."

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Lord only knows how many of these types are walking up and down main street as we speak.

50 posted on 07/07/2004 8:54:42 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: AmericaUnited

"It's pretty obvious by now that this guy wanted out and schemed up his kidnapping. Find him and court martial him for desertion, 20 years hard labor!"

At the moment it is difficult to think otherwise. However, there remains the possibility that we may yet see this man slaughtered.

Plus, I will add that if he faked his kidnapping, he was inarguably involved in a conspiracy. He'll have some 'splaining to do, I imagine.



51 posted on 07/07/2004 8:55:08 PM PDT by jocon307 (Nor forgive!)
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To: RaceBannon
He looked too clean and neat in that hostage photo, and no sweat on his face, no bruises, nothing. Compare it to that guy from Jersey and from Korea.

I noted from the get go that the military spokesmen were phrasing their remarks about this whole thing with unusual words, which to me didn't betray a sense that this disappearance was in the same category of consideration as earlier, actual kidnappings. One example, they said, with some distance in the voice, that he "failed to report for duty." Not the usual way they word things when someone goes missing not of his own accord.

You can bet that our military intelligence honchos picked apart that photo just as you did, and that they have the benefit of lots of interviews with the soldiers who served with him.

52 posted on 07/07/2004 8:57:19 PM PDT by GretchenM (A country is a terrible thing to waste. Vote Republican.)
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To: tobyhill

That's what I was wondering earlier. What if AQ is using our freedoms against us (which I firmly believe they are with the SC ruling recently). If non-citizens can join our military, how many operatives could possibly be in positions of intelligence, knowledge, etc. at this very moment in time?


53 posted on 07/07/2004 8:59:29 PM PDT by rintense (Kerry/Edwards: Two Johns to screw America)
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To: Howlin
And as soon as I read he arrived in Utah on September 10th, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up.

WHOA!!!!! That just adds more fuel to my theory. Imagine OBL knew we'd come after him with force after 9-11. So, he send hundreds of young Muslim recruits to the United States to join our military- and then turn against us, killing as many as possible.

AQ in our military... it makes me sick just thinking about it.

54 posted on 07/07/2004 9:02:35 PM PDT by rintense (Kerry/Edwards: Two Johns to screw America)
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To: Happy2BMe
Lord only knows how many of these types are walking up and down main street as we speak.

What about in out military!

55 posted on 07/07/2004 9:03:40 PM PDT by rintense (Kerry/Edwards: Two Johns to screw America)
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56 posted on 07/07/2004 9:03:56 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: rintense

out = our. I need sleep.


57 posted on 07/07/2004 9:03:58 PM PDT by rintense (Kerry/Edwards: Two Johns to screw America)
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To: rintense
How about the Sergeant that killed 2 Officers at the beginning of the war with a grenade? You are right there are some and I hope not many.
58 posted on 07/07/2004 9:04:44 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak)
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To: GretchenM
If you care to note that he almost has a smile on his face in that photo. Clean shaven, pressed clean cloths. Not what you will find in most hostage takings. I wonder?
59 posted on 07/07/2004 9:06:48 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gultch.)
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To: rintense; Smartass; MeekOneGOP; FBD; counterpunch; Registered; PhilDragoo; potlatch; onyx; ...
"What about in our military!"

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Yes.

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Recent hearings by Senator John Kyl’s subcommittee on terrorism have exposed the growing dominance of a radical sect of Islam in the United States.

This sect, commonly referred to as Wahhabism, preaches jihad against Christian, Jews, and Muslims who don't toe the Wahhabi line. All 19 of the September 11 hijackers were followers of Wahhabism, as is Osama bin Laden. This violent perversion of Islamic faith has been responsible for terrorist attacks against innocent civilians — both Muslim and non-Muslim — all over the world.

As a movement, Wahhabism has established publishing operations, schools, and charities in many countries. The self-labeled "educational outreach" of this movement — financed largely by the wealth of Saudi Arabia, where Wahhabism is the official, and only state, religion — foments jihad and a fundamentalist theology to young people internationally, including in the United States.

And there have been a increasing number of instances in which Wahhabists have successfully penetrated key U.S. institutions, such as the military and our prison system. As several recent media reports have noted, the two groups that accredit and recommend Muslim chaplains to the military — the Graduate School of Islamic and Social Sciences and an organization under the umbrella of the American Muslim Foundation — have long been suspected of links to terrorist organizations by the federal government. The Graduate School and another group accused of ties to Islamic extremists — the Islamic Society of North America — also refer Muslim clerics to the U.S. Bureau of Prisons.

Just this week, one of the key architects of the U.S. military's chaplain program, Abdurahman Alamoudi, was arrested and charged with an illegal relationship with Libya, long a state sponsor of terror. Federal investigators also have detained a Muslim clergymen who was once stationed at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba — Captain James Yee — and is being investigated for potential ties to al Qaeda.

The New York State prison system promoted a Muslim cleric to a position that allowed him to supervise the hiring and firing of all prison chaplains. He was later removed from his job when officials discovered he was an al Qaeda sympathizer who incited prisoners against America. Jose Padilla, a terrorist accused of trying to build a "dirty bomb" to unleash in the United States, was exposed to radical Islam in the U.S. prison system. Richard Reid, the so-called "shoe bomber," was converted to fundamentalist Islam while serving time in a British prison.

On Tuesday, I chaired a hearing of the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism and Homeland Security that analyzed the procedures used by the military and prison system to recruit Muslims, particularly focusing on the cleric program. We also examined whether the instances of Wahhabi infiltration at key U.S. institutions may be part of a larger pattern. We heard from government witnesses on steps they are taking to confront these challenges and outside experts attesting to terrorists' efforts to exploit a free society to conduct the wide range of activities necessary for effective terror operations.

In response to our Senate inquiry, groups whose terror-related activities are being scrutinized by my subcommittee as well as the federal government have been quick to accuse investigators of Muslim bias. Falsely charging "bigotry," however, is simply not an acceptable response to serious allegations of criminal activity. Terrorists should not be allowed to disguise their hateful, violent activities under the banner of religious freedom. The fear of being falsely accused of prejudice, coupled with political correctness, may be part of the reason we got into the situation we're in right now.

America is a welcoming nation, and Americans are respectful of all faiths. It's time we confront the evil that has distorted and victimized the peace-loving, mainstream Muslim community. In the Senate, we intend to do just that.

Senator Jon Kyl is a Republican senator from Arizona.

SOURCE

60 posted on 07/07/2004 9:08:47 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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