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Clarke Calls Iraq War 'An Enormous Mistake'..Blah Blah Blah
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Posted on 07/07/2004 9:34:43 AM PDT by Spackidagoosh

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To: Spackidagoosh
"...costing untold lives..."

I thought the lefties and their 'wedding party' allies were counting each and every one of these lives. How can it now be that the count is 'untold'?

21 posted on 07/07/2004 10:14:19 AM PDT by telebob
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To: Spackidagoosh

Clark's dreaming of being CIA Director! Ha-Ha!


22 posted on 07/07/2004 10:16:52 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Spackidagoosh

If that is not a biased article, I don't know what is. The writer seems to feel that the Iraq war was an enormous mistake. He repeats the headline in both of the first two sentences. In order to gain relevance, he reminds us the Clarke was once the Counter-Terrorism CZAR! Oooooooo. I'm impressed.


23 posted on 07/07/2004 10:25:04 AM PDT by webheart
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To: Spackidagoosh
"We did exactly what al Qaida said we would do -- invade and occupy an oil-rich Arab country that wasn't threatening us in any way. The hatred that has been engendered by this invasion will last for generations," he said.

"Al Qaida" said this? He's just fabricating anything he can. Osama specifically denounced the UN sanctions regime and our enforcement of it, so logically Clarke must have advocated full retreat - but I doubt it.

24 posted on 07/07/2004 10:40:47 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: Spackidagoosh

This guy is yesterday's news. What comes through Clarke's vitriol is bitterness that he was kicked aside by the incoming Administration.


25 posted on 07/07/2004 10:58:00 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Well.....there you go again.")
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To: Spackidagoosh

It's a war against rabid, unreasonable,brain dead zombie fanatics to whom murder is an obsession, Mr. Clarke. They will continue to kill until they are killed and you win the battle by reducing their burning rage to room temperature along with their bodies.

Shut up! Mr. Clarke , and in time many will forget that you are a fool.


26 posted on 07/07/2004 10:58:48 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (John the gigolo and John the Schmo-hee hee hee and ho ho ho!!!! Hey Curley and Larry! Where's Moe??)
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To: Spackidagoosh

The Administration's biggest mistake was keeping Dick Clarke around for as long as it did. He should have had his desk packed, and been thrown out onto the street if need be, by noon, Jan. 20, 2001.


27 posted on 07/07/2004 11:03:36 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Well.....there you go again.")
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To: firebrand; Steve_Seattle

They're rewarding him for his Bush-bashing, and seeking to ratchet up the sales of his book.


28 posted on 07/07/2004 11:13:15 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Spackidagoosh

Yeah, he can try telling the liberated Iraqis that.


29 posted on 07/07/2004 11:45:27 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Have you donated to FreeRepublic today? No? Where would you be right now without FR?)
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To: Spackidagoosh

Hmmmm....Richard Clarke in Orlando Florida speaking out against the war. If I'm not mistaken, isn't Orlando Florida home to alot of Mosque's?


30 posted on 07/07/2004 11:45:30 AM PDT by Arpege92 (Moore is so fat that when he hauls a$$ it takes two trips - tractorman!)
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To: Spackidagoosh
He's done.


31 posted on 07/07/2004 11:52:42 AM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: Spackidagoosh

This is the same guy who sponsored and played a part in USS Cole going to Yemen despite advise to the contrary at the time by our ambassador there.

Please read previous FR post in its entirety. The link to the original article no longer on the web.

Could USS Cole tragedy have been avoided?


World Tribune.com ^ | October 18, 2000 | John Metler


Posted on 04/07/2004 6:00:45 PM PDT by detch


October 18, 2000

UNITED NATIONS — The terrorist attack on the USS Cole, refueling in the port of Aden again sharply focuses the stark vulnerability of American interests in the Middle East. While it's easy to play "Monday morning quarterback" after such a tragedy, its equally prudent to question the set of circumstances which witnessed a planned suicide attack on the destroyer Cole tragically sending seventeen American sailors to their untimely deaths.

All the pieces were in place; An overextended fleet--today 325 ships down from 600 in Ronald Reagan's fleet--a mandate patrolling the Persian Gulf enforcing sanctions on Iraq, a lack of oilier vessels because of cutbacks, thus prompting the fatal choice to make a questionable port call in a place like Yemen.

Allowing the USS Cole, a modern guided missile destroyer go unescorted into Aden was possibly safe, but probably better avoided given regional tensions, emotions and threat profiles, especially in the wake of renewed Palestinian /Israeli fighting.

One must not underestimate the visceral anti-American hysteria, emanating from the Palestinian uprising on the West Bank, Gaza and Israel. An American ship is like a red flag to a bull during such times throughout the Islamic world, even far from the political epicenter; whether one is in Yemen or Pakistan.

The small boat suicide attack on the Cole, impacted hundreds of pounds of high explosives against the ship's hull causing a gaping 40 hole in the vessel. FBI investigators, soon to be backed up by 1,200 Marines for security, are searching for the culprits likely to be the Osama Bin Laden organization or some of the other terrorists who Yemen home.

Why were we operating in such a dangerous environment? Where's our planning? While its common knowledge that US ships have gone into Aden for refueling since early 1999, bunkering was not done in times of violent upheaval and high octane hate. Furthermore, the US Embassy in Yemen has prudently warned about the risks of American ships visiting Aden.

General Anthony Zinni, recently retired Pentagon Chief for Middle East operations defended his original decision to use Aden as a refueling port and the desirability of bringing Yemen closer to American interests. General Zinni told the New York Times that several ship visits had been vetoed by the American Ambassador to Yemen, Barbara Bodine, who worried about the threat of terrorism.

Importantly National Security Advisor Sandy Berger, Defense Secretary William Cohen, and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright were not opposed to the Yemeni port calls for US Navy ships. "Mr. Berger, Mr. Cohen, and Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright, defended the decision to use Aden as a refueling point despite concerns about security in a country the State Department itself called `a safe haven for terrorists,' earlier this year," cites the New York Times .

Thus we again ask the painfully poignant question? Why would a US Navy vessel be in Aden in the first place? Mountainous Yemen has a well earned reputation as a wild and woolly place for friend and foe alike, kind of an Afghanistan by the Red Sea. It seems that Yemen rarely enters the media except when hapless foreign tourists, usually Europeans, stumble into kidnaps, ambushes, and afoul of some local militia.

Moreover as a old Soviet client state, there are more than enough people who don't quite welcome an American presence even if it means needed revenues for the Port of Aden.

Though Aden and its famous Steamer Point was woven into the strategic planning and lore of the British Royal Navy until 1967, modern Yemen has suffered the vicissitudes of civil war, national division with South Yemen, the former the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen, being an classic Soviet client.

Washington has worked on improving relations with the current regime of Field Marshall Ali Abdullah Saleh. Clearly there's a case for better ties with strategic Yemen . Yet, a seeming nonchalance about credible threats underscores a larger problem. Sadly the Clinton/Gore Administration's usual sloppy planning, Alice in Wonderland worldview, and "it can't happen here" mindset, creates such a glaring vulnerability.

John J. Metzler is a U.N. correspondent covering diplomatic and defense issues. He writes weekly for World Tribune.com.

October 18, 2000


32 posted on 07/07/2004 12:11:13 PM PDT by detch
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To: Spackidagoosh

Hey, Clark? You had your 15 minutes, and now no one cares what you say.

Didn't you get the memo? Johnny Lawsuit is the latest Flavor of the Week!


33 posted on 07/07/2004 12:16:21 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Forth now! And fear no Darkness!!")
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To: Spackidagoosh
I'm sorry, it's way too early to make judgements on whether the Iraq war was a mistake or not. It has been a hugely ambitious attempt to tear down a hostile, threatening Middle Eastern regime and reform it into the Arab world's first legitimate democracy. One of the ballsiest moves by an American president in the last 50 years, but it's only ballsy because the payoff is far from assured. Iraq could potentially end up another Iran, and we could be worse off than we were with Saddam. I think that the odds are in our favor, but it's not a sure thing.

But for this gasbag Clarke to make pronouncements like this, when future events could prove Operation Iraqi Freedom to be a master stroke, just makes him look like an opinionated partisan rather than a dispassionate analyst.

34 posted on 07/07/2004 12:29:41 PM PDT by kezekiel
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To: Casloy

It has not been a mistake even if it has been a mistake, for in it there are extremely valuable lessons learned (and yet to be learned)for the next time around, both in what and how to do, what and how to do better and what not to do the next time around. Therefore it cannot be a mistake.


35 posted on 07/07/2004 1:14:21 PM PDT by GSlob
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Hey Clarke,
Release all threat assessment reports on Iraq and Al-Qaida while you served as an agent, not just selected excerpts to a partisan commission. Never mind, soon the CIA will release them, just in time to let the people decide.
36 posted on 07/07/2004 1:38:21 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak)
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