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snip from the article: If you believe that life begins at conception, doesn't your conscience compel you to vote in concert with that belief? Just as, if your conscience tells you capital punishment is state-sanctioned murder, you would vote against the death penalty? Or if you believe that gay marriage is a fundamental civil right, you would vote against a constitutional amendment to ban it?
1 posted on 07/07/2004 7:19:10 AM PDT by rface
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Let's say hypothetically that someone feels strongly that they should have the right to kill lefty politicians trying to destroy their country. Do they have freedom of conscience? Who are we to say that they are wrong? Why do we legislate our morality on them?

For the record, this is done to show the ridiculousness of lefty politicians' positions, not as an implied threat.


2 posted on 07/07/2004 7:24:18 AM PDT by blanknoone (The WOT can only be won abroad, and can only be lost at home.)
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I can't believe some reporter hasn't already pointed out the contradictions of Kerry's statement. Or....maybe I'm not so surprised. But it sure is a loaded gun, just sitting there for the using.


3 posted on 07/07/2004 7:25:19 AM PDT by EggsAckley ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Evita Rodham Clinton)
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His consistent record in favor of abortion rights, family planning, and reproductive freedom was, I thought, a courageous reflection of an independent mind.

Yeah, right. As opposed to the politically expedient position of a gutless charlatan.

4 posted on 07/07/2004 7:36:50 AM PDT by madprof98
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Basically, he saying that he believes a fetus is a person who must die in order to ensure that John Kerry can obtain political power.

Sorry, kid.

6 posted on 07/07/2004 7:43:38 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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President John Kerry, "I personally believe Iran has nukes and I personally believe they are a threat to American and Israel, however, I can't impose my beliefs on fellow American Pacifist, Peaceniks, Anti-War Liberals."


8 posted on 07/07/2004 7:54:48 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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Of course it's one of the great unexamined issues. In the middle ages, scholars could argue when life began, and many argued that it began when the child "quickened" (i.e. came alive) in the womb and the mother could feel it kick. The Christian believe is that God creates and infuses the soul into the unborn child, and back then it was possible to think that maybe God did so a month or six weeks after conception.

They also believed that Nile mud could spawn living creatures.

Scientists now know that none of these theories was true. Life begins at conception. If life begins then, and if you believe with Aristotle and the Church that "the soul is the form of the body," then the unborn baby must have a soul from the beginning too. Leaving that aside, however, it's still clear that the unborn child is a) human and b) alive from conception onward. That is a scientific truth, not a religious opinion.

I believe that probably 99% of proabortionists understand this at some level. Abortion kills a living human being. That's the scientific reality. But only a few of them will admit it, even to themselves, partly because it bothers them and partly because admitting it risks losing votes at the polls for their precious "right" to kill babies.

Many ignorant viewers thought that Pontius Pilate came off better in "The Passion" than the Chief Priests of the Jews, because he knew that Jesus was innocent. Anyone with the moral sense God gave a gnat, however, understands that Pilate comes off worse, because he knew Jesus was innocent but killed him anyway. The same applies to John Kerry.


9 posted on 07/07/2004 8:14:28 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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10 posted on 07/09/2004 8:21:34 AM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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