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Islam is a religion of WHAT?
Jewish World Review ^ | 7-8-04 | Jackie Mason & Raoul Felder

Posted on 07/07/2004 5:14:34 AM PDT by SJackson

Standing on Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn, on the afternoon of September 11, 2001, looking west to Manhattan, the fires had turned the horizon a bright orange that rose to great heights painted against a perfect pitiless blue sky.

Observing this terrible beauty, the residents of the neighborhood danced in the streets, laughing, shouting to each other, shaking hands. These people were not what one would suppose to be fanatical or militant Muslims. They were people who had come to these shores from the Middle East, mostly shop keepers, bakers, purveyors of eastern spices, tradesmen, cab drivers and the usual diversity of people found in a New York ethnic neighborhood on a warm fall weekday. They were American citizens however, who were expressing their judgment — joy at the events of that horrible day that forever changed our world and America's place in that world. They were also the followers of Islam: religion of oppression, discrimination, violence, terror, war, superstition, intolerance and prejudice. They were the followers of a religion of hate who, at the very least, if not active participants in the events of that world-changing day, took unashamed pleasure in the violence visited upon those — including their fellow citizens and neighbors — who did not share their beliefs.

The President has said about Islam: ...Islam inspires countless individuals to lead lives of honesty, integrity and morality (12/5/02). A...It's [Islam] a faith based on love, not hate. (9/10/02) "The Islam that we know...teaches the value and the importance of charity, mercy and peace. (11/15/01).

Well, he is the President, and like Tony Blair, probably has to say these sorts of politically-correct things in the belief that they are necessary to be said, because to declare the truth would create a threat to the maintenance of order or, it might provoke an outraged citizenry to retaliate in a vengeful and illegal way, jeopardizing domestic tranquility. We have no such impediment and trust that the truth can only serve to enlighten and not to incite.

Islam exists as it is taught in the Koran and lived by Muhammad. Muhammad, by the way, was hardly an example that one would wish to emulate. He had affairs with maids and slave girls and was also a pedophile (and before we get outraged e-mails on the latter point, here is chapter and verse: the girl's name was Aisha, she was 9 he was 53. He was also involved in the slave trade, assassinations and genocide. But, what the heck, nobody is perfect.)

Let's, as the sportscasters say, go to the record, which, in this case is the Koran.

Kill the disbelievers wherever we find them. (2:191)

Fight and slay the pagans (translation: that's us) seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem. (9:5)

Slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of the unbelievers...(5:34)

...strike off the heads of the disbelievers...[make a] wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives [for ransom] (947:4)

[treatment of disbelievers]...garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods (22:19).

The Koran also instructs Muslims to slay or crucify or cut the hands and the feet of the unbelievers (5:34), fight unbelievers until no other religion except Islam remains. (3:85)

Given these basic teachings of Islam there is little reason to be surprised at the beheading of Americans Nick Berg, Paul Johnson and Marine Cpl. Wasef Ali Hassoun.

Of course, not all Muslims participate in violence or even express joy at the perpetration of violence against the West in general, or Americans in particular, just as all Germans in the forties did not believe when they heard their anthem, Deutschland uber alles, that it meant literally that Germany must conquer all other nations. Some Germans embraced a passive longing for Germany to be victorious; some few actually despised fascism, and some, an almost non-existent few acted against it. So it is with Islam and the Muslims. About the best the civilized world can expect is a joyous but passive reaction to the mindless violence.

Empires have come and gone. Rome, Portugal, France, Holland, Germany and even in our time, Great Britain, have seen their moment of world dominance - have seen it flicker, and then, extinguish. And yet, they accepted it as part of the panorama of history, and have moved on. Not so with Islam.

It is not by accident that our enemies call the coalition forces in Iraq the Crusaders. To Islam the war, which they lost centuries ago, continues.

[It is of interest to note that the United States went to war with Muslim powers in 1801. Barbary pirates kidnapped and made slaves of our citizens, demanding tribute for their release. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson asked of the envoy of Tripoli by what right did he make his claim for payment. As reported to Congress by Jefferson, "The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners." ]

The enemy is not really the United States, nor even Israel. The enemy is modernity itself and the forces of change that have made them irrelevant. The West has persevered and they have lost. They are the have-nots, and to the degree that they have the economic power of oil, even this has been denied to them as a society by the corruption of their own despotic rulers. They are the past in a present and future that belongs to the West. There is a chord that joins them with other losers like Lee Harvey Oswald and Lee Boyd Malvo, devoid of any distinction or ability to even control their own lives, who strike out in spasms of hate-filled rage.

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1 posted on 07/07/2004 5:14:34 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Islam is a religion of WHAT?

Death, misery and enslavement

2 posted on 07/07/2004 5:18:25 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: SJackson

Great article!!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 07/07/2004 5:23:37 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: SJackson
Excellent post!!

I have an area of disagreement with our President. It is this:

The President has said about Islam: ...Islam inspires countless individuals to lead lives of honesty, integrity and morality (12/5/02). A...It's [Islam] a faith based on love, not hate. (9/10/02) "The Islam that we know...teaches the value and the importance of charity, mercy and peace. (11/15/01).

I believe that these are political words and that President Bush knows better.

What is the problem? Islam is the problem. We know it and the practitioners of this horrible religion know it as well.

4 posted on 07/07/2004 5:25:04 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: SJackson

Jackie has been outspoken about this all along. I am somewhat surprised to see Raoul's name here.


5 posted on 07/07/2004 5:28:41 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Islam translated does not mean "peace", it means "submit".

Those who pretend otherwise do so at their peril.


6 posted on 07/07/2004 5:33:22 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
7 posted on 07/07/2004 5:43:03 AM PDT by SJackson (Who was the first Jewish guy to get a Heisman trophy? Fred Goldman, cause he got mine!, OJ Simpson)
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To: davisfh

Both Bush, Kerry, Clinton, and all the democrats and republicans know full well that this is a demented belief system of unspeakable horrors.


8 posted on 07/07/2004 5:45:06 AM PDT by tkathy (nihilism: absolute destructiveness toward the world at large and oneself)
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To: SJackson
Well, he is the President, and like Tony Blair, probably has to say these sorts of politically-correct things in the belief that they are necessary to be said, because to declare the truth would create a threat to the maintenance of order or, it might provoke an outraged citizenry to retaliate in a vengeful and illegal way, jeopardizing domestic tranquility.

Exactly!

It has nothing to do with the truth, only neccessary expediency.

9 posted on 07/07/2004 5:49:33 AM PDT by Gritty ("Believe me, behind closed doors, there are no moderate Muslims"-Abu Musa)
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Is there photo/video evidence of the dancing in the streets in America? We've all seen the palis and pakis do over there, but it would be valuable to show that of those living amongst us, if true.


10 posted on 07/07/2004 5:55:24 AM PDT by blanknoone (The WOT can only be won abroad, and can only be lost at home.)
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To: SJackson

If I had seen any moslems celebrating 9-11 by cheering and dancing in the streets I may have "gone postal" on them.


11 posted on 07/07/2004 5:57:16 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: 2banana

All religions have a checkered history and their prophets have often made excessively zealous statements. Many things in the Bible are horrific if not taken in context or interpreted symbolically. At its heart, Islam is a valid form of ethical monotheism and nothing is gained by trying to slander it because of the it's been hijacked by bin Laden. Bush is correct to keep emphasizing this.


12 posted on 07/07/2004 6:01:52 AM PDT by Bushbacker
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To: SJackson

Bump for the truth.


13 posted on 07/07/2004 6:07:04 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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To: Bushbacker

When the head imam of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, or the imam of the largest mosque in Europe, finally change their minds and consider these quotes out of their context or symbolically, I may find your accusation of "slander" more persuasive.


14 posted on 07/07/2004 6:10:54 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Bushbacker
At its heart, Islam is a valid form of ethical monotheism and nothing is gained by trying to slander it because of the it's been hijacked by bin Laden. Bush is correct to keep emphasizing this.

PUHLEEZE! Next post, please be so kind as to give us a mega-barf alert.

15 posted on 07/07/2004 6:12:26 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: SJackson

stellar!


16 posted on 07/07/2004 6:17:03 AM PDT by dennisw (http://www.prophetofdoom.net/)
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To: Bushbacker
At its heart, Islam is a valid form of ethical monotheism ........


LOL! Just look at the murderous life of it's so called prophet. Mohammad was also a pedophile. It's hard to make lemonade from a turd.
17 posted on 07/07/2004 6:20:15 AM PDT by dennisw (http://www.prophetofdoom.net/)
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To: SJackson

It's the religion of beheadings.


18 posted on 07/07/2004 6:27:26 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: SJackson

Deutchland, deutchland über alles is not a statement that Germany should rule the world, but a statement that the idea of a unified Germany (wich did simply not exist at the time when the text was made) should be highest on the mind of the german people, that there would be one day be a Germany. (http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Deutschland%20ueber%20Alles)

Bush´s words about Islam did much good, prewented fanatical retribution toward innocent people who happened to be muslims (or look like muslims like the sheiks who were killed because of their turbans, they are by the way not muslims) and thus saved number of US cities from descending into riots and caos and ewen civil war after the horrible attacs on 11.09.2001.

,,Empires have come and gone. Rome, Portugal, France, Holland, Germany and even in our time, Great Britain, have seen their moment of world dominance - have seen it flicker, and then, extinguish. And yet, they accepted it as part of the panorama of history, and have moved on.,,

I wonder, will the US accept that their moment of world dominance is over when the time comes?


19 posted on 07/07/2004 6:31:44 AM PDT by Leifur
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To: Leifur

HUH?!?


20 posted on 07/07/2004 6:37:23 AM PDT by EggsAckley ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Evita Rodham Clinton)
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