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To: BellStar

Get ready to pay more for shrimp.


2 posted on 07/07/2004 3:13:18 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango
The artificially low price of shrimp hurt Americans!
"I'm Celebrating this victory with the boats
and crews who bring us the worlds
finest shrimp, American wild-caught shrimp".
5 posted on 07/07/2004 3:31:23 AM PDT by BellStar (I will not amend my beliefs according to someone else’s politically correct straight jacket.)
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To: Drango

I haven't seen the details on the shrimp tariff. And depending on what it is or isn't it may or may not be appropriate.

I don't have a big issue with Vietnam, they are an up and coming producer. (With respect to Shrimp, not so-called-catfish) But Chinese communists are definitely not playing fair. Their state owned aquaculture industry is massively subsidized as a way to gain hard currency for the gov't. A huge portion of China's positive TB is in private investment, the gov't only gets a slice of it. The aquaculture industry is mostly state owned.

One of the most eggregious aspects of this is that they are using USDA genetic selection program shrimp as stock. We have taxpayer subsidized research into selecting shrimp with good growth and disease tolerance in aquaculture environments. These improved strains of shrimp have massively improved the Chi-coms aquaculture industry. After tens (hundreds?) of millions of taxpayer funded research, the Chicoms bought miproved broodstock shrimp for a few hundred bucks. Another aspect of the dumping are the trace anti-biotics. The EU blocked all Chinese shrimp when there were trace amounts of banned for human consumption anti-biotics found, but they were under the threshhold of American standards. So it all got dumped here.

How this all plays out is what is an appropriate tariff. If it is narrowly targetted at the Chicoms, I fully support it, and it won't have much effect on shrimp price. If it is too broad, especially if it affects countries like Ecuador and Thailand, then it is trade protection and is inappropriate.


6 posted on 07/07/2004 3:34:23 AM PDT by blanknoone (The WOT can only be won abroad, and can only be lost at home.)
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To: Drango
Get ready to pay more for shrimp.

Not me. The Jumbos are already out of my price range - $12.99 per pound.

Let's all take a moment to recall that the price of shrimp skyrocketed when the enviros pushed through a drag-net ban in florida.

11 posted on 07/07/2004 4:06:12 AM PDT by snopercod (What we have lost will not be returned to us.)
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To: Drango
From SF Chron...

Prepare for jumbo shrimp prices
Costs could soar as a result of U.S. tariffs on imported catches

Carolyn Said, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, July 7, 2004
San Francisco Chronicle
Chronicle Sections

Shrimp, the most popular seafood in America, may become more expensive soon as a result of new tariffs that the U.S. government is considering on imports from some countries in a move to bolster domestic shrimp production and prevent dumping, or sales at artificially low prices.

On Tuesday, the Commerce Department announced preliminary tariffs on shrimp imported from China and Vietnam. Tariffs on sales from Thailand, Brazil, Ecuador and India may be imposed by the end of the month.

Those six countries account for the lion's share of imported shrimp. Of the 1 billion pounds of shrimp consumed annually in the United States, about 87 percent is imported, according to the U.S. International Trade Commission.

Shrimp importers and others are still puzzling over the exact impact of the proposed regulations.

"It will translate into higher prices for shrimp in the very near future, " said Wally Stevens, president of the American Seafood Distributors Association, which represents importers, cold-storage warehouses, freight forwarders, truckers, restaurants and retailers.

He was unable to predict just how high prices might go, however. The group originally forecast a 44 percent increase in shrimp prices based on the tariff that U.S. shrimp concerns had requested. The proposed tariffs, though, came in lower, but are variable, making calculations difficult.

While tariffs for Chinese companies range from nothing to 112 percent, the average tariff will be 49 percent; Vietnamese company tariffs will range from 12 to 93 percent, with an average rate of 16 percent. The tariffs are calculated for individual companies based on financial information they provided the Commerce Department.

John Sackton, editor and publisher of Seafood.com in Lexington, Mass., said the impact may be minimal.

"Even though the numbers sound very drastic, I feel there are enough loopholes in this preliminary decision that a number of the major exporters in each country (China and Vietnam) will be able to ship large quantities to the U.S.," he said.

He predicted that, naturally enough, the companies that will face no or low tariffs will see their U.S. business boom, while those slapped with big tariffs will concentrate on exporting to markets such as Japan and Europe.

"It certainly is not going to make shrimp less expensive for the consumer, that is for certain," said Tom Elliott, vice president and general manager in San Francisco at Slade Gorton & Co., which imports 1.75 million pounds of shrimp per year. "It's a simplistic statement, but true: Any tariff we pay on shrimp will be passed on ultimately to the consumer (as) a higher price, whether it's 2 or 3 percent, which they probably wouldn't notice, or a 20 percent increase."

Final tariffs won't be known until late this year or early next year, after the U.S. International Trade Commission and the Commerce Department each go through another round of reviewing the issue. The tariffs came about because U.S. shrimp-boat owners and shrimp processors, who are mainly based in Southern states, complained that their overseas rivals were dumping products on the market, driving prices so low that U.S. companies couldn't compete.

Lee Nakamura, a partner at Tokyo Fish Market in Berkeley, which sells about 100 pounds of shrimp each week, said the shellfish will remain popular no matter what.

"Shrimp is very important in all different styles of cooking," he said. "What we've noticed before when shrimp goes through seasons of being more expensive is that people tend to drop the size. They still buy it but get one size smaller."


22 posted on 07/07/2004 4:47:53 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango
This is nothing but a Bush/Cheney plot to ruin the budget at the Democrat Convention in Boston. Just how the heck can Fat Teddy jam 3 or 4 lbs of shrimp into his mouth and not break the bank ? How can Jesse stuff his pockets at an all you can eat buffet?? I say it's time to start a Congressional Commission to go after Bush.
30 posted on 07/07/2004 6:08:02 AM PDT by lonerepubinma
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To: Drango

This will be problematic at many international buffet eateries everywhere.


39 posted on 07/07/2004 9:13:16 AM PDT by cyborg
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