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'Incitement' a Two-Way Street
Israel National News (Arutz 7) ^ | July 7, 2004

Posted on 07/06/2004 4:30:33 PM PDT by Alouette

As the debate regarding how to resist the expulsion of Gaza's Jews heats up, some who vehemently oppose fulfilling the 'illegal order' to transfer Arabs are calling such talk 'incitement' when it is aimed at preventing the transfer of Jews.

There have been many condemnations recently against those rabbis and public figures encouraging soldiers to refuse the “illegal orders” to expel Jews from their homes. However little has been said about high-profile public officials who have called for the same acts – but only with regard to the expulsion of Arabs.

Remarks featured in the weekly B’Sheva newspaper by Uri Elitzur, a former director-general of the Prime Minister’s Office under Binyamin Netanyahu called upon soldiers to disobey orders to exile Jews. He also justified active resistance (short of the use of firearms) by residents attempting to prevent the destruction of their homes. These statements have sparked a fierce debate throughout the political echelons as to the limits of resistance to the planned expulsion.

In response to demands by several MKs such as Avshalom Vilan (Meretz-Yahad) that Elitzur be indicted for ‘incitement’, the former Director of the Prime Minister’s Office defended himself on Army Radio today. Elitzur pointed out that while Justice Minister Yosef Lapid himself has publicly supported refusal to serve in the IDF in any capacity as a form of protest he [Elitzur] is merely calling for the refusal to carry out an illegal order – a principle taught to every IDF soldier during basic training.

Claiming his call for a refusal of orders was not something new, Elitzur quoted a letter by Justice Minister Lapid, which was published in Maariv, in which Lapid wrote: "The shame of exempting yeshiva students from service in the Israel Defense Forces will not end until a draft refusal movement arises in Israel ... Not a movement that refuses to serve in the territories, but a movement that refuses to serve in the IDF at all. Only if hundreds and thousands of draftees return their service orders ... will the political establishment be compelled to come to the IDF's aid."

Other public figures have also called for the refusal of orders. Yossi Sarid and Yair Tzaban wrote in Yedioth Ahronoth, (Wednesday, June 27, 1990), in response to a proposal to temporarily move several Arab villages until the end of the grape harvest: "Let there be no misunderstandings amongst us, and let it not be said that you were not warned in advance: We shall not obey the transfer order, nor will our children and those we have educated obey it. The day that the transfer order - which is a patently illegal order - will be given, shall be the day of refusal to obey an order."

Turning to the program’s host, Elitzur asked, “Are you, Razi Barkai, willing to remove Arabs against their will from a village? No democratic government in the world would decide to forcibly remove its citizens from their legal homes.” Elitzur added that the act to remove the Jews of Gaza by force is illegal, immoral, and unjustifiable.

Elitzur said his words justifying active resistance were intended to provoke a debate pertaining to the vital issues at hand – goals which he believes he achieved. He stressed that he himself would resist anyone who comes to forcibly remove him from his home but does not make the rules or red lines for others. He called any attempt to evict persons forcibly from their homes a “crime” that should not be tolerated.

Driving the point home, Elitzur pointed to the recent Supreme Court decision preventing the expropriation of land by the government for the construction of the counter-terrorism security barrier, questioning how the same government feels it has the right to uproot 22 communities in Gaza, including land, homes, and entire townships.

Elitzur stressed one is prohibited from striking soldiers but that it is even more prohibited to remove persons from their homes against their will. He said that if anyone ever comes to remove him from his home, he will resist with all his ability and will not permit anyone to remove him without a fight.

Ruth Matar of Women in Green wrote that, “In the past, left-wing figures have called for violence against sectors of Israeli society without any charge of incitement being even acknowledged by the courts.” She cited several instances:

*Yehonatan Gefen, 1998: "Secular Israel is the occupied territories of the religious parties. If the secular desire to live here, they have no choice but to start an intifada. Yes, I am prepared to throw the first stone."

*An article in the Ha-Kibbutz newsletter, August 1995: "They [the settlers] are not my brothers. [...] A civil war will be a war [...] I will run to it [...] and I will crush their flesh with mighty blows, to rout them. [...] I will go forth to the foe in order to fight, for once, a justified war. [...] Much blood will be shed."

*Zeev Sternhal, in the Davar newspaper, 1988: "Fascism cannot be stopped with rational arguments. This can be stopped only by force, and when there is willingness to risk a civil war. When necessary, we shall have to forcibly deal with the settlers in Ofrah or in Elon Moreh. Only a person who is willing to advance against Ofrah with tanks will be capable of curbing the fascist drift that threatens to inundate Israeli democracy."

*In an article in the Ha'Aretz newspaper in 2001, this same Sternhal incited the Arabs to murder settlers, advising the terrorist organizations to place explosive charges only on the eastern side of the Green Line. "There is no doubt regarding the legitimacy of the [Arab] armed resistance in the territories themselves. If the Palestinians had a bit of sense, they would concentrate their struggle against the settlements. [...] They would similarly refrain from placing explosive charges on the western side of the Green Line."

Matar says that several attempts at legal action were taken, but all were dismissed in the courts. "How is it that people are becoming so excited by the statements of Uri Elitzur and the Judea, Samaria, and Gaza Council of Rabbis," wrote Matar, "but completely disregard the incitement by the left?"


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: freespeech; incitement; israel; settlers; shinui

Tamei Lapid, professional "Holocaust survivor" (kapos are also "holocaust survivors") is one of the most venomous anti-religious inciters in Israel, right up there with the Islamic muftis.

1 posted on 07/06/2004 4:30:33 PM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 07/06/2004 4:31:06 PM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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To: Alouette
Lapid Cited For "Clownish" Notions

"We shouldn't be surprised if Tommy Lapid soon declares himself the Chief Rabbi and grants the Shinui Party Central Committee the authorities of the Chief Rabbinate Council." So said MK Meir Porush (United Torah Judaism) yesterday, responding to Lapid's threat to transfer the authority to perform religious conversions from the Chief Rabbinate courts to the Justice Ministry.

Lapid heads both the anti-religious Shinui Party and the Justice Ministry.

"Lapid has turned Israeli politics into a circus," Porush said. "In the 56 years of the State's existence, our political system has not encountered such a clown as Lapid. He has succeeded in turning the public discourse into something absurd and an object of ridicule."

"Conversion is a religious concept," Porush said, "and must obviously remain in the realm of the religious courts. Conversion not performed according to Jewish Law is simply a deception and a fraud."

Lapid is is a freaking megalomaniac and a wannabe Stalin.

3 posted on 07/06/2004 4:34:39 PM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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To: Alouette

He was a kapo?
Where?

Just curious.


4 posted on 07/06/2004 4:35:07 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

I didn't say he was a kapo, just that he acts like one in his detestation of other Jews.


5 posted on 07/06/2004 4:38:38 PM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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To: Alouette

At least that's cleared up, it certainly seemed that way.

He looked like he might be old enough to have been and as
you say, kapos survived, probably a lot of them.


6 posted on 07/06/2004 4:43:51 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

But what, if anything, can we in America do to stop this nonsense?

I mean, should we start passing the hat, like in the old days, to get Mausers for the resistance?

And why hasn't the Ministry of Justice issued an injunction with a tank or bulldozer against those who advocate killing Israeli citizens?

pali's get killed for much the same sort of talk, as well they should; an enemy is an enemy, regardless of language ir religion, and an anti-Zionist is an anti-Zionist, regardless of geography.

lock the fool up.


7 posted on 07/06/2004 6:02:47 PM PDT by epigone73
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To: epigone73

In Israel, just as in the US, "freedom of speech" is only for the Left. When a conservative expresses an opinion it's "hate speech" in the US and "incitement" in Israel.


8 posted on 07/06/2004 7:51:20 PM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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To: Alouette

The Leftists while screaming about rightiousness and freedom always volunteer for gallows work for those who disagree with them.

Very dangerious and delusional people.


9 posted on 07/06/2004 10:18:57 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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