Posted on 07/06/2004 12:31:01 PM PDT by areafiftyone
No he hasn't. This "memo" was published in an Italian newspaper. It has not been released publicly by the Vatican; we don't even know for certain if Ratzinger is the author of it.
If he chose to speak publicly and release this document publicly as head of the Congregation for the Faith, then it might influence the American bishops.
As it is, the bishops have voted to allow individual bishops to make their own decisions about refusal of the Eucharist.
“Nor is the minister of Holy Communion passing judgment on the person’s subjective guilt, but rather is reacting to the person’s public unworthiness to receive Holy Communion due to an objective situation of sin.”... the objective situation of sin being the explicit or constructive intent of the legislator/voter to abort.
Prefect (head) of the Congregation for the Faith. He is in charge of resolving doctrinal issues.
Is he a possible "next Pope
No. He's 78.
More proof the Vatican wants Kerry in office. They've wanted Bush out ever since he pushed for the war in Iraq. Now they have a chance to make Kerry look like a hero for defying them.
Thanks, Sinkspur.
Good info.
Wait, are you trying to say the Pope doesn't have control of his Cardinals and what they may or may not send out as memos?
The whole complaint against Kerry is that he is defying the Vatican. Are you suggesting this Cardinal is doing so as well?
As opposed to any other religious denomination? Either you believe in something or you don't. But don't identify yourself as a member of a group and simultaneously do everything possible to spit on the tenants of said group. And then have the nerve to complain the group doesn't hold you in good stead.
No, you don't have to worry. Most Democrats who call themselves Catholic are apostates. If receiving Communion was that important to John Kerry, he wouldn't have divorced his first wife, married the second without benefit of annulment, then vote down bills outlawing partial birth abortion. His pro choice votes are in direct violation of Church teaching. So he is publicly saying he's Catholic, in fact using it as a political tool, while standing there publicly violating Church teaching. The Church has every right to refuse him Communion, and while they're at it, they need to shovel Teddy out of the family pew permanently.
It comes down to this: do you want to be a politician or a Catholic who follows his/her religion?
I'd like to see the Bell, Book and Candle ritual personally.
Anything which makes things rougher for Kerry and the "Swimmer" makes me happy.
If you can't abide by the rules of an organization - leave.
Maybe they should start their own church - the Church of the "If-It-Feels-Good-do-It" Assembly of Contemporary Hedonists.
?......When is control,.....CONTROL?
(private vs. public?)
Should say, "Private Memo States Catholic Politicians Should Be Banned from Communion", as the memo does not specifically mention Kerry.
Whatever their intents are would be one thing, but the headline is inaccurate. In all fairness and exactness.
Kinda ironic, JFK had to show he's wasn't a papist pawn of rome and jfk has to show he is one.
So, Guiliani and Pataki are barred too?
Umm,
How about some perspective?
I mean, the current law allows, nation wide, that a medical practitioner can take a scissors and jam them into the brainstem of a term (full grown), totally awake, unanesthetized, unsedated, fetus (or baby).
The fetus or baby can feel it. No question. The baby also feels the next step, that of a suction catheter sucking out its brains from the base of its skull. There is no anesthesia for the fetus. The mother, yes she gets regional anesthesia and sedation. But next to nothing for the baby or fetus. Whatever crosses over to the placenta, then to the baby, which is a negligible amount.
There is no screaming of the fetus. This is because the sinister practitioners of this satanic ritual now do it feet first: The baby's screams are muffled by the mother's uterus and birth canal. More correctly, it can never really draw a breath to make a sound. The baby is withdrawn after it is dead. No troublesome screams.
This occurs very frequently in the US; maybe a hundred a day, who knows. The feds prohibit any statistics be kept.
Overall, abortions of all kinds, early to mid to late, are about as common as births.
So the odds of a child nowadays in the US to be born rather than curretted alive and sucked out into a disposal, are about even.
And you were worried about what again?
The whole notion of "personal opposition" is idiotic, because it presumes that there is a line that divides what is morally objectionable from what should or should not be permitted under the law.
Remember -- we're talking about an elected legislator or executive here, not a judge. A judge is obligated to render decisions based on the law, not on what he thinks the law ought to say. A legislator or executive, on the other hand, is not bound by such limitations -- because the laws in question haven't yet been passed.
In Catholic doctrine there is no such thing as a half-@ssed approach to government. If someone tells me that he is "personally opposed" to the death penalty but is willing to sign a capital punishment bill into law, then I can only conclude one of two things: 1) he isn't really "personally opposed" to the death penalty at all, or 2) he doesn't think the issue is terribly important in the first place, and therefore his "personal opposition" is about as relevant as his preference for a favorite dessert.
Hope so.
bump
Ratzinger got a lot of mentions but not nearly enough votes back in 1978 when the two John Pauls were elected. He had been Archbishop of Munich until '77 when Pope Paul made him a cardinal. So, he had some consideration back then, but his time has passed.
has anyone seen ted kennedy taking communion
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