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Federal officials open up 1,500 miles of desert to off-roaders
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state/20040703-1812-ca-deserttortoise.html ^ | July 3, 2004

Posted on 07/05/2004 6:34:20 AM PDT by John Jorsett

LOS ANGELES – The Bureau of Land Management substantially increased the amount of public land open to off-road vehicles in Riverside and San Bernardino counties by approving 1,500 miles of roads in the Mojave Desert.

The decision made Friday affects 1.3 million acres in the Mojave Desert and covers a large portion of critical habitat for the endangered desert tortoise. But officials said they made efforts to avoid sensitive areas.

"We don't have to close every road in critical habitat, but we do determine how sensitive the area is and what the impacts are," said Jan Bedrosian, a spokeswoman for the bureau.

Conservationists said the ruling recognized illicit roads that only exist because recreational vehicle users went off-road illegally, and predicted it would hurt the delicate desert environment.

"Everything that was out there on the ground was designated as open, and a lot of it was created by illegal roads," said Daniel Patterson with the Center for Biological Diversity in Tucson, Ariz.

Environmentalists and off-road enthusiasts have long butted heads over whether more desert land should be opened to recreational vehicles.

Owners of all-terrain cycles and other vehicles complain sensitive desert land is all too often off-limits to them, while environmentalists argue the BLM caters to off-road vehicle users at the expense of protecting habitat.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: environment; offroad
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1 posted on 07/05/2004 6:34:20 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: HairOfTheDog; Ramius

Jetski-of-the-land ping!


2 posted on 07/05/2004 6:36:11 AM PDT by ecurbh (_.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^Just Married^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._)
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To: ecurbh
The Bureau of Land Management substantially increased the amount of public land open to off-road vehicles in Riverside and San Bernardino counties by approving 1,500 miles of roads in the Mojave Desert

Like they'll stay on the roads this time either.... These wankers live for ~new~ ground....

3 posted on 07/05/2004 6:45:25 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (~*-,._.,-*~Loves her hubbit~*-,._.,-*~)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Stay on the roads.... riiiiight!


4 posted on 07/05/2004 6:49:20 AM PDT by ecurbh (_.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^Just Married^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._)
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To: ecurbh

Look at all those horse trails! lol


5 posted on 07/05/2004 6:57:51 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
Look at all those horse trails!

You sound like my daughter, who sees horse trails in every landscape! Set up a few jumps, and she's in business...

6 posted on 07/05/2004 7:43:07 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: ecurbh

Having grown up in SoCal ('spans alot) it seems to be just natural habitat to me. ;)


7 posted on 07/05/2004 7:46:33 AM PDT by kAcknor (That's my version of it anyway....)
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To: John Jorsett

What about both of the endangered lizards? The little mouse? The fleas? Oh, the humanity....


8 posted on 07/05/2004 7:55:18 AM PDT by Tacis (,)
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To: ecurbh

You are unimformed.

I spent three years on the BLM RAC in Nevada. It is a fact that when adequate routes are available, maintained and enforced new routes are not created.

Also, there are areas that have "open route" designations, like the one in your photo. Those areas are literaly open to travel across open terrain, road or not.

Mainstream eco-kooks know this yet lie to present the same mantra you do.

And you?


9 posted on 07/05/2004 8:01:27 AM PDT by off-roader
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To: off-roader

I've spent a lot of time in the woods too. The real fact is, dirt bikers love to climb up the part of the hill no one has climbed before.

I am glad to give them pieces of ground to ride on. It keeps them off the rest of it, we hope.


10 posted on 07/05/2004 8:15:58 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (~*-,._.,-*~Loves her hubbit~*-,._.,-*~)
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To: CindyDawg
Look at all those horse trails!

Those are illegal alien footpaths. And this being California, space alien landing pads.

11 posted on 07/05/2004 8:18:06 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: HairOfTheDog

If it's not an open riding area or private land then the riders are likely breaking the law.

What are these areas you refer to?


12 posted on 07/05/2004 8:21:12 AM PDT by off-roader
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To: off-roader

Man, you guys (and gals) are so lucky out west. In my state of CT, we have ONE small legal spot to ride out ATV's....it's pathetic.


13 posted on 07/05/2004 8:27:44 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: John Jorsett

A decision sure to enrage environmentalists, esp. those who don't want human activity on any federally owned land. Or state land. Or private land. Well, the dirty little secret is that they really think all land should be owned communally as in communism.


14 posted on 07/05/2004 8:31:06 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Always A Marine

...just look for piles of horseshiite, and the wafting aroma that accompanies it!


15 posted on 07/05/2004 8:32:31 AM PDT by pageonetoo (Rights, what Rights'. You're kidding, right? This is Amerika!)
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To: John Jorsett

Where's it at? I'm gettin my kid a new dirtbike.


16 posted on 07/05/2004 8:36:36 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (I'll donate to the RNC after the nuclear annihilation of a few Islamic countries! Still waiting!)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

All of the Mojave in SoCal outside of the following:

Military Reservations
Wilderness Areas
Wilderness Study Areas
National Parks (not always limited)
National Monuments
Mojave National Preserve

The eco-kooks wanted had the entire desert closed down except for a few "open route" areas which comprised less than 1% of the whole area.

This change would have never happened under an aLgore administration.


17 posted on 07/05/2004 8:43:55 AM PDT by off-roader
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Why don't you just get him a couple of pounds of calcium carbide and tell him to keep it cold in an ice chest?


18 posted on 07/05/2004 8:44:08 AM PDT by Old Professer (Interests in common are commonly abused.)
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To: off-roader

I'm up in Western Washington State, Near Olympia, and it is State Forest. Working timber land. Open to the public and a great spot. I know I sound cynical about the ATV crowd, but I am a back-country (horse) trail rider and there is a reason for it. It's an aesthetic difference, with some bad history that makes it more like a rivalry between the two hobbies.

They've got the forest divided in half, Half for motorized vehicles and half for non-motorized. A great solution really, in concept. The horseman share their side with hikers and mountain bicycles, and for tactical reasons, the hunters, just because of the noise on the other side.

We can hear them when we are our side sometimes, and it does change the whole mood of the outdoors, but it's a big place and we can get away from it too.

The trouble I've had really is that on each side there are camp spots. The horse camps are nice camps. Large campsites with corrals, and the horse-campers are quiet by temperament. The bike camps are loud, with a different kind of crowd, drinking at night and loud music, and well, loud bikes buzzing around camp. So the bikers that want quiet come and camp at the horse camps. They can use the bikes on the road in to camp. And do. They want quiet alright, until it is them coming and going, or their own music. So the horse folks complain. We ask them for quiet. When we are off riding, our horse trailer tires get slashed.

We could be allies, each fighting to protect our access to public lands. But they are different cultures, in the woods for different reasons. and we have come to see each other as the enemy. Slashed tires will do that to ya.

I don't know what the rules are in the bike side of the mountain, but the whole place is chewed up, not just trails through it, and I also don't know if there is a rule on the horse side, but there is a ~ethic~ to stay on the trail that is enforce through peer pressure and common understanding. Because we are all there for the peace and beauty, we keep it that way.


19 posted on 07/05/2004 8:45:54 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (~*-,._.,-*~Loves her hubbit~*-,._.,-*~)
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To: ecurbh

So wheres the gas station? :)


20 posted on 07/05/2004 8:51:49 AM PDT by Orange1998
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