Dichter Warns of Rise in Extremist Jews (Israelis fight back!)

NewsMax ^ | 7/5/04 | AP

[wagglebee]

Message to Arafat: This is what it looks like when people get sick of your sh!t and start fighting back.

[A. Pole]

If Israeli Jews do not have more children than Muslims do no degree of radicalisation is going to help them. But if they do have more children they will win no matter if they will be moderate or radical.

[Slings and Arrows]

Sheesh, it only took 56 years!

There is absolutely no excuse if settlers fire on army troops sent to evacuate them (not that I think the settlers would). But fighting this disaster by every legal means available, and by nonviolent civil disobedience as a last resort (that's nonviolence as civilized people understand the term, not "Palestinians") is certainly indicated.

All we can do is to wait and see. And pray.

[Slings and Arrows]

Ping!

[Alouette]

Jews are mad as hell and they're not going to take it anymore.

The secular Ashkenazi elitists (Labor party, Shinui, Meretz and the secular faction of the Likud) know that the demographics are against them. The Hareidim ("ultra-Orthodox") have the highest birthrate in the country, higher even than the Arabs.

Rather than allow the religious Jews to share any power, the secularists shut down their parties, outlaw and imprison their leaders, and would rather give away the country to the Arabs in medium and large chunks.

Link to article in Jerusalem Post

It sounds almost nutty to say, but I think Jews in Russia enjoy more religious freedom than in Israel.

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[elmer fudd]

Yep. You've summed it up in a nutshell. Within 50 years or so Arabs within Israel itself will be a large enough minority to decide the elections. 100 years from now they will have a large majority unless current demographic trends reverse themselves.

When one side has 6 children per family and the other has 2 it only takes a of couple generations for things to change.

[TheSpottedOwl]

I agree that Jewish settlers have a right to be there, but I'm concerned that Arafat could exploit this division.

If they're serious, then everyone who is old enough to fire a gun and young enough to see a target, should get a rifle and start shooting. Shooting at Palestinians, of course.

I hope that the settlers and the government can come to a mutually beneficial solution.

[wagglebee]

I want to know when someone will explain to the world that there never has been a place called Palestine and there is no such thing as a Palestinian. There are Egyptians (like Arafat) and Syrians and Persians and Arabs, but there are no Palestinians. The irony is that most of the Arabs who live in Israel hate the "Palestinians" as much as the Jews do.

[isom35]

let me get this straight. someone named "dichter" is warning about a "rise" ? hmmmmmm..............

[Salem]

I submit William Welty's Islam Commentaries eloquent piece entitled:

Sauce for the Goose, Sauce for the Gander, Part II

Published back in April. He has some answers in there for the ills which afflict Israel.

Everybody knows where I stand with the settlers. Appeasement will not work with the militant Islamist mindset. Still, HaShem is working within the House of Israel, and specifically within the Conservative/Orthodox community, the only ones who regard His word and work in the land.

So, yes, we'll pray, that the House of Israel and HaShem work this out—together.





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[TheSpottedOwl]

Bah! Members only site. I imagine that the Ultra-Orthodox reject birth control like Ultra-Orthodox Christians, vs their secular counterparts.

So what's up between the religious and secular factions in Israeli politics? They can't find common ground to defeat Arafat and his PLO? Sort of like Kerry supporters and traditional Catholics, I guess...

[185JHP]

Are Moledet and Tehiya still around?

[A. Pole]

I want to know when someone will explain to the world that there never has been a place called Palestine

Originally the name Palestine applied to the coast, where the Philistines lived. Judea was to the east and included Jerusalem in its northern part. To the north was Israel and future Samaria.

In the second century AD Romans extended the name Palestine to these three lands and part of todays Syria creating the large province Syro-Palestina. Modern state of Israel includes most of Judea, large part of Israel/Samaria and part of original Palestine while being located within the Palestine in post-Roman extended meaning.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Aaaah, but this is what we've been fed in schools and the media for generations. Palestine! Poor downtrodden Palestinians. I'm sick of all the propaganda and the asskissers...

[montag813]

So the Palestinians summarily execute their supposed Israeli informants without a trial. Meanwhile this skunk from the Israeli CIA is telling the world that its own loyal citizens are the enemy. Nice example of why Israel is doomed.

[Fiddlstix]

So if the Jews say enough is enough they are the extremists, huh?

I think I know who the extremists are!
(See below)

[SJackson]

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[goldstategop]

Avi Dichter is an extreme Leftist. Its interesting he considers Jews more dangerous than Arab terrorists. The Israeli Left has never been concerned with saving Jewish lives.

[rmlew]

Moledet exists as part of National Union along with Tekumah (a religious party), and Yisrael Beitenu (largely Russian). Of course factional politics and vote-sharing agreements in Israel are quite complex and ever changing.

[SirLurkedalot]

LOL