Posted on 07/04/2004 7:39:07 AM PDT by nwrep
I seriously thought about converting to Judaism as a teenager, before dispensing with religion all together. I refused to follow what I saw as the authoritarian nature of Christianity, assuming one should follow a single spiritual leader, nor would I bend in my belief that Jesus was a man like any other, and there was nothing "divine" about him.
He's the Lily Munster of the family :-)
Well the problem with your theory is that Everyone and Everything has an Authorative figure, Animals, Plants, People and the Universe if GOD isn't the ultimate authority who is? Man has conquered many things but he can't an never will conquer "Death"
Half of Israel doesn't support Israel, half the time.
"I seriously thought about converting to Judaism as a teenager, before dispensing with religion all together. I refused to follow what I saw as the authoritarian nature of Christianity, assuming one should follow a single spiritual leader, nor would I bend in my belief that Jesus was a man like any other, and there was nothing "divine" about him."
You are FREEEEEEEEE!
John Kerry deliberately is using his brother now to woo Jewish voters.
Brother Emphasizes Kerry Israel Support
http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=12482
A crowd of 150 well-heeled, mostly liberal Jews paid $250 apiece to hear Cameron Kerry, Sen. John Kerrys Jewish brother and top adviser, speak about the Democratic presidential candidates commitment to Israel and the Jewish people.
Despite the enthusiastic reception for his younger brother, John Kerry has yet to excite Southern California Jews the way past Democratic presidential candidates have, experts said. His wooden personality, occasional criticisms of Israel and vehement support for the United Nations an organization viewed by many Jews as anti-Israel, have raised questions about the Massachusetts senators commitment to the community. Also, President Bushs pro-Israel policies and toppling of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein have won over an increasing number of moderate and conservative Jews, experts said.
But candidate Kerry faces a formidable candidate this time around in Bush, experts said. The presidents stalwart support for Israel has won him a growing following among Jews. With the community increasingly moving to the center from the left, Bush could win 30 percent or more of the Jewish vote. In a close race, that increased support could help deliver Florida, Michigan and other hotly contested states to him, experts said.
You are missing the point. Try to think about this story from a left-wing POV, and it will make more sense. Does the left really want a guy supported extensively by a group (law firm of Cameron) which has such strong Israeli business (incl. military cos.) ties? If the left is complaining about Bush being captive to Israeli interests, wait till they hear about this. Kapish?
"You are missing the point. Try to think about this story from a left-wing POV, and it will make more sense. Does the left really want a guy supported extensively by a group (law firm of Cameron) which has such strong Israeli business (incl. military cos.) ties? If the left is complaining about Bush being captive to Israeli interests, wait till they hear about this. Kapish?"
Sounds like muddy water to me. There is only one liberal Lieberman that swims back and forth across the river regarding security of Israel. The rest of them do whatever they can to create as many holes in security as anyone else, Jewish or not.
This is like a shell game.
I understand your point. But the leftists hate Bush far more,than they hate Israel, besides, they know that Kerry really hates it too, regardless of having a brother who converted to Judaism.
I know you think, that if the left finds out Kerry has a Jewish brother, they turn against him, but as I said, they hate Bush more than they anything or anyone. They don't care if Kerry makes a pact with the devil, just so he defeats Bush.
I think the Jewish voters, on the other hand, may well be reassessing their blind support for the Democrats.
Kerry's "support" for Israel is the same "I supported them, before I voted against their interests" as we've seen on other issues.
First there is almost nothing Kerry can do that would cause the Democratic base not to vote for him. The Democratic base is united by one phrase.... "Anyone Except Bush!!!" So Kerry has no fear of losing the base. They are not for him.. they are for defeating Bush. There will be no liberal protest vote against Kerry.
Secondly, Kerry has a to win Florida. President Bush with his strong support for Israel has made inroads into the Jewish voting block. Not big inroads .. but inroads. Kerry has to reverse that. If Kerry loses a portion of the Jewish vote, Florida is out of the question for him. Kerry must have Florida to have any chance at all to win the presidency.
So from the Kerry standpoint there is nothing to lose by coming out strongly for Israel. The Democratic base is not going to waste their vote on Nader. The base desperately wants to defeat George W. Bush. Kerry needs the Jewish vote in Florida. He has to have it.
So Kerry will come out strongly for Israel... But that does not mean he will be strong for Israel after the votes are counted. Are Jews Dumb enough to fall for it? We'll find out in November.
It means nothing. "Reform" (or as many of us say "Deformed") Jews are not real Jews at all. They are "JINOs"...their true religion is Socialism, their dogma is Secular Humanism.
Ah yeah, Brother Cam, the official Watergate Burglar of the Kerry campaign. What a scumbag.
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Criminal Number 18F
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I've heard that at least one of Alan Solomont's prominent donors has told him and the democrats to pound sand. There's a great deal of dissatisfaction within the Jewish community with the democrats politics....it's not a stampede but there is a real shift.
As I've observed before, you (not "many of us") are the only one I've seen on FR who uses this expression.
They are "JINOs"...their true religion is Socialism, their dogma is Secular Humanism.
Sweeping generalization. There are politically liberal Orthodox Jews. There are politically conservative Reform Jews. My Reform congregation is 50-50 Democrat vs. Republican.
A recent thread on FR stated that Catholics are split 50-50 in support for Bush and Kerry. Numerically, there are a lot more liberal Catholics and other Christians than there are liberal Jews.
Don't you mean Marilyn? ;) The "normal" one.
Amen....how do you go from believing to non-believing?? I don't think it;'s Spititually possible...just expediant.
John F'ing got BOTH chins!!
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