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To: Romulus; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; livius; ...
What a stupid and evil thing to say

Stupid? I don't think so. The USCCB regularly lies to and disobeys Rome. I am no theologian or canon liar, but I sort of get the idea of schism, and when Rome said apply Canon 915 and 90+% of the US Bishop's said NO, well, if that is NOT schism, maybe we need a new word. Nor is this new. Review the history of the Indult, not the Tridentine one but the Communion in the hand Indult. Try the history of Altar girls. Rome said NO! The USCCB went right ahead anyhow. As for EVIL, well if calling disobedient and geretical Bishops schismatic is EVIL, then the word needs redefinition.

72 posted on 07/04/2004 10:40:40 AM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: narses
The USCCB regularly lies to and disobeys Rome. I am no theologian or canon liar, but I sort of get the idea of schism, and when Rome said apply Canon 915 and 90+% of the US Bishop's said NO, well, if that is NOT schism, maybe we need a new word. Nor is this new. Review the history of the Indult, not the Tridentine one but the Communion in the hand Indult. Try the history of Altar girls. Rome said NO! The USCCB went right ahead anyhow. As for EVIL, well if calling disobedient and geretical Bishops schismatic is EVIL, then the word needs redefinition.

Well put, but some thoughts, however true, are just so terrifyingly ugly that folks just refuse to consider them.

Lord deliver us from the mitered wolves in your sheepfold.
75 posted on 07/04/2004 12:11:25 PM PDT by broadsword (Liberalism is the societal AIDS virus that thwarts our national defense.)
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To: narses

Are you going to make me repeat myself?

Very well: you cannot make your case by calling attention to the blunders or even malice of your opponent.

The regrettable fact that the AmChurch hierarchy is timid or disobedient does not and can not confer any legitimacy upon the Lefebvrite schism.


76 posted on 07/05/2004 7:52:17 PM PDT by Romulus ("For the anger of man worketh not the justice of God.")
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