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To: Kerberos; Sloth
It's pretty crass. Churches have no business aligning themselves with secular political parties, nor should parties be trying to encourage such affiliation."

Exactly, although there seems to be many so-called conservatives here that can't begin to understand that fundamental truth.

What fundamental truth?

Tell me where in the Bible, not religion but the Bible where it tells us not to be aligned with one side, or the other?

There is a clear difference, at least for the time being and Christians must be part of deciding who our leaders are.

God does not want us to be lacking wisdom , and knowledge.

Hsa 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.

Proverbs 29:2 “ When the righteous rule, the people rejoice. When the wicked rule, the people groan.”

John Jay, First Chief Justice U.S. Supreme Court – “providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.”

President George Washington – “It is impossible to rightly govern … without God and the Bible
18 posted on 07/02/2004 9:40:08 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
Tell me where in the Bible, not religion but the Bible where it tells us not to be aligned with one side, or the other? There is a clear difference, at least for the time being and Christians must be part of deciding who our leaders are.

There's nothing wrong with Christians being politically aligned/active as individuals, or in voluntarily formed groups (American Family Association, etc.). And certainly they ought to vote in a way consistent with their morals.

But to have organized church involvement in secular politics is a perversion of what God established it for. We read nothing of Jesus crusading for governmental change in the Roman Empire, even though He knew it would be persecuting His followers. The purpose of religion is spiritual, not secular.

65 posted on 07/03/2004 3:32:44 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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